Steven Madden (SHOO) Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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DATE

Thursday, July 30, 2026 at 8:30 a.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

• Chairman and Chief Executive Officer - Edward Rosenfeld
• Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President of Operations - Zine Mazouzi
• Vice President of Corporate Development and Investor Relations - Danielle McCoy

TAKEAWAYS

• Consolidated Revenue -- $665.9 million, an increase of 19.1% year over year driven by the acquisition of Kurt Geiger and organic growth in the Steve Madden and Dolce Vita brands.
• Revenue Excluding Kurt Geiger -- Rose 11.2% year over year, reflecting healthy demand across footwear and accessory categories.
• Wholesale Revenue -- $407.5 million, a 13% increase year over year or 11.5% excluding Kurt Geiger, supported by 20% growth in the branded business.
• Wholesale Footwear Revenue -- $240 million, up 9% year over year, as growth in proprietary brands was partially offset by a decline in private-label business.
• Wholesale Accessories and Apparel Revenue -- $167.5 million, up 19.2% year over year, driven by strong branded handbag performance.
• Direct-to-Consumer Revenue -- $255.4 million, a 30.6% increase year over year or 11.1% excluding Kurt Geiger, with double-digit growth across brick-and-mortar and digital channels.
• Steve Madden Brand Global Comp Sales -- Increased 9% year over year, led by a 17% increase in the U.S. market.
• International Comp Sales -- Rose 1% year over year, impacted by conflict in the Middle East; excluding the GCC region, international comps rose 4%.
• Consolidated Gross Margin -- 46.5%, up from 41.9% in the prior year, reflecting higher average selling prices and lower private-label penetration.
• Wholesale Gross Margin -- 35.2%, up from 30.9% in the prior year, due to higher selling prices and a smaller negative impact from tariffs.
• Direct-to-Consumer Gross Margin -- 64%, up from 61.3% in the prior year, attributed to reduced promotional activity and higher selling prices.
• Operating Income -- $44.5 million, representing 6.7% of revenue compared to 4% of revenue in the prior year.
• Net Income and EPS -- Net income reached $31.7 million, or $0.44 per diluted share, more than doubling from $13.9 million, or $0.20 per diluted share, in the prior-year period.
• Inventory -- $377.2 million, a 13.7% decrease compared to the prior year, primarily due to a 30% reduction in Kurt Geiger inventory levels.
• Cash and Debt -- The company reported $94.7 million in cash and cash equivalents against $124.8 million in total debt, resulting in net debt of $30.1 million.
• Full Year Revenue Guidance -- Raised to a range of 11% to 13% growth, up from the previous forecast of 10% to 12%.
• Full Year Earnings Guidance -- Raised to a range of $2.05 to $2.15 per diluted share, up from the previous range of $2.00 to $2.10.
• Steve Madden Brand Outlook -- Management now expects a high single-digit revenue increase for the full year 2026.
• Dolce Vita Outlook -- Revenue forecast raised to a high single-digit to low double-digit increase for the fiscal year.
• Private Label Outlook -- Expected to decline in the mid- to high teens for the full year as the mass channel remains pressured.
• Freight Impact -- Management incorporated a $0.06 per share headwind for the second half of 2026 due to prolonged conflict in the Middle East.
• Store Count and Concessions -- The company ended the quarter with 382 brick-and-mortar stores, 92 outlets, eight e-commerce sites, and 164 international concessions.

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RISKS

• Mazouzi stated, "we have incorporated an additional $0.06 of pressure from freight as the impact from the Iran conflict has gone on longer than we contemplated in the prior guidance," noting that air freight costs are rising as the company chases best-selling products.
• Rosenfeld stated, "obviously it's well documented that private label is a tougher part of the market for us right now in the mass channel," explaining the segment is expected to be down mid- to high teens for the year.

SUMMARY

Management reported that financial results for **Steven Madden, Ltd.** (NASDAQ:SHOO) were influenced by the successful integration of the Kurt Geiger London brand and a resurgence in the Steve Madden flagship line. The company reported a significant expansion in gross margins across both wholesale and direct-to-consumer channels, supported by price increases implemented to mitigate tariff impacts. While international growth was constrained by geopolitical conflict in the Middle East, domestic U.S. demand remained high, particularly in women's footwear and branded accessories. The company updated its full-year guidance to account for these positive demand trends while cautioning about increased logistical costs and a continued decline in private-label footwear demand in the mass market channel.

• Global online searches for the Steve Madden brand increased 71% during the quarter, which CEO Rosenfeld attributed to "compelling product and strong market execution" that fueled a meaningful increase in brand heat.
• The company expanded its Kurt Geiger retail footprint in the U.S. to seven full-price stores, which reported a 12% comparable store sales gain in the second quarter.
• Six of seven Kurt Geiger stores now offer a "one-of-a-kind" personalization service for handbags; CEO Rosenfeld noted this service "drove 17% of handbag sales" in the stores where it is available.
• Management indicated that the Nordstrom anniversary sale has seen volume and sell-through increases compared to the prior year, specifically noting that the "Steve Madden women's footwear business" was a standout performer.
• The company acquired its distribution business in Spain and Portugal during the quarter and plans to operate these markets in-house to drive further international growth.
• CFO Mazouzi reported that the company received $92.1 million in refunds related to the reversal of IEEPA tariffs during the quarter, which were utilized to pay down outstanding debt.
• Management updated its tariff assumptions for the second half of 2026, factoring in 10% to 12.5% for Q3 and 15% for Q4 to account for potential new trade investigations.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

• 301 Tariffs: Tariffs imposed by the U.S. government under Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974, targeting specific trade practices.
• AUR: Average Unit Retail, the average price at which an item is sold to consumers.
• Comp Store Sales: Comparable store sales, a metric comparing revenue from stores open for at least one year.
• GCC: Gulf Cooperation Council, a regional union consisting of Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.
• IEEPA: International Emergency Economic Powers Act, a U.S. federal law used to regulate international commerce in response to unusual or extraordinary threats.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Operator: Welcome to the Second Quarter 2026 Steven Madden Limited Earnings Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Danielle McCoy, Vice President of Corporate Development and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Danielle McCoy: Thanks, Debbie, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our second quarter 2026 earnings call and webcast. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that our remarks that follow, including answers to your questions, contain statements that we believe to be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause actual results to materially differ from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. These risks include, among others, matters that we have described in our press release issued earlier today and filings we make with the SEC.

We disclaim any obligation to update these forward-looking statements, which may not be updated until our next quarterly earnings call, if at all. The financial results discussed on today's call are on an adjusted basis, unless otherwise noted. A reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure or other associated disclosures are contained in our earnings release. Joining me on the call today are Ed Rosenfeld, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Zine Mazouzi, Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President of Operations. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ed. Ed?

Edward Rosenfeld: Okay. Thanks, Danielle, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review Steve Madden's second quarter 2026 results. We delivered robust top and bottom line growth in the second quarter, reflecting the strength of our brands and our team's disciplined execution of our long-term strategy. Total revenue grew 19% in the quarter, or 11% excluding Kurt Geiger, and diluted EPS more than doubled from the second quarter last year. Our flagship brand, Steve Madden, was the highlight, continuing to gain momentum as consumers responded enthusiastically to the trend-right assortments created by Steve and his design team. In women's footwear, we saw strong performance with dress shoes at various heel heights and outsized growth in the casual category.

We capitalized on a variety of trends in style and materials, including split toes, jellies, hidden wedges, rhinestone mesh, ballet-inspired looks, thongs and needle heels. Men's footwear also performed well across a range of categories with particular strength in loafers. And in handbags, we returned to strong growth with totes, hobos, and crossbody styles that incorporated trending materials like straw, jelly, and denim. Our marketing team supported these assortments with integrated brand and product storytelling, including a deeper partnership with model Delilah Belle, who fronted our Bait & Switch summer campaign. Together, the combination of compelling product and strong market execution fueled a meaningful increase in brand heat. Global online searches for Steve Madden rose 71% in the quarter.

Based on the strong momentum we are seeing, we have increased our forecast for Steve Madden brand revenue for the year and now expect a high single-digit increase compared to 2025. We also made meaningful progress in the quarter on our key growth initiatives for the Kurt Geiger London brand. In the U.S., building out Kurt Geiger store base is an important part of our strategy to increase brand awareness, showcase the full brand experience and drive profitable growth. We opened 2 full-price stores in premium malls in the quarter, Tysons Corner and Dadeland, bringing us to a total of 7 full-price stores in the U.S.

The new stores are off to a good start, and the existing stores are performing well, driving strong 4-wall profitability and delivering a 12% comp store sales gain in the second quarter. 6 of the 7 stores offer Kurt Geiger's unique one-of-a-kind personalization service, which enables customers to design their own Kensington bag and walk out with it in minutes. In the stores where it's available, the one-of-a-kind offering drove 17% of handbag sales, and we see this as a key differentiator for the brand that we will lean into going forward.

Outside the U.S., we acquired a business in Spain and Portugal from our distributor in Q2, and we'll now operate that business in-house, and we are in active discussions with a number of potential distribution and joint venture partners for Kurt Geiger around the world. For the year, we continue to expect mid-teens pro forma revenue growth in Kurt Geiger. In Dolce Vita, we had an outstanding second quarter with strong growth across wholesale and DTC channels, driven by a compelling product assortment highlighted by jellies, ballet flats, Mary Janes, mid-heel dress shoes and thongs. We also continue to gain momentum in handbags and make progress in international markets, including Canada, Mexico and the U.K.

Based on the momentum we are seeing, we have increased our forecast for Dolce Vita revenue for the year and now expect high single-digit to low double-digit growth. Overall, our lead brands are deepening their connections with consumers and gaining relevance in the marketplace, and each is poised for meaningful growth ahead. Based on the strong performance in the second quarter, we are raising our consolidated revenue and earnings outlook for 2026. And looking out further, we believe our powerful brands, proven business model, talented team and sound strategy position us to deliver sustainable revenue and earnings growth over the long term.

And now I'll turn it over to Zine to review our second quarter financial results in more detail and provide our updated outlook for 2026.

Zine Mazouzi: Thanks, Ed, and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, consolidated revenue was $665.9 million, a 19.1% increase compared to the second quarter of 2025. Excluding Kurt Geiger, which we acquired on May 6, 2025, consolidated revenue increased 11.2%. Wholesale revenue was $407.5 million, up 13% compared to the second quarter of 2025. Excluding Kurt Geiger, our wholesale revenue increased 11.5%. Wholesale footwear revenue was $240 million, a 9% increase or up 7.8%, excluding Kurt Geiger, driven by strong growth in the branded business, partially offset by a decline in private label.

Wholesale accessories and apparel revenue was $167.5 million, up 19.2% compared to the second quarter in the prior year or up 17.5%, excluding Kurt Geiger, also driven by strong growth in the branded business, partially offset by a decline in private label. In our direct-to-consumer segment, revenue was $255.4 million, a 30.6% increase compared to the second quarter of 2025. Excluding Kurt Geiger, our DTC revenue increased 11.1% with double-digit growth in both brick-and-mortar and e-commerce channels. Steve Madden brand global comp sales rose 9% in the quarter, including a 17% increase in the U.S. and a 1% increase in international markets, which were impacted by the conflict in the Middle East.

Excluding our business in the GCC, international comp sales increased by 4%. We ended the quarter with 382 company-operated brick-and-mortar stores, including 92 outlets as well as 8 e-commerce websites and 164 company-operated concessions in international markets. Our licensing royalty income was $3 million in the quarter compared to $2.9 million in the second quarter of 2025. Consolidated gross margin was 46.5% in the quarter, up from 41.9% in the second quarter of 2025, driven by significant increases in both wholesale and DTC channels. Wholesale gross margin was 35.2%, up from 30.9% in the second quarter of 2025 due to higher average selling prices, a smaller negative impact from tariffs and a lower penetration of private label.

Direct-to-consumer gross margin was 64%, up from 61.3% in the prior year due to higher average selling prices, a reduction in promotional activity and a small negative impact from tariffs. Operating expenses as a percentage of revenue were 39.8% in the quarter compared to 37.9% in the second quarter of 2025, primarily reflecting the inclusion of the full quarter of Kurt Geiger as well as higher incentive compensation. Operating income for the quarter was $44.5 million or 6.7% of revenue compared to $22.6 million or 4% of revenue in the prior year. The effective tax rate for the quarter was 26.3% compared to 25.6% in the second quarter of 2025.

Finally, net income attributable to Steve Madden Limited for the quarter was $31.7 million or $0.44 per diluted share compared to $13.9 million or $0.20 per diluted share in the second quarter of 2025. Turning to the balance sheet. Our financial foundation remains strong. During the quarter, we received $92.1 million in refunds related to the reversal of IEEPA tariffs, which included $3.1 million in interest. We only have approximately $1 million in potential refunds still outstanding. We used the refunds to pay down debt. And as of June 30, 2026, we had $124.8 million in debt and $94.7 million in cash, cash equivalents for a net debt of $30.1 million.

Inventory at the end of the second quarter was $377.2 million, down 13.7% compared to $437 million in the prior year, driven by a 30% reduction in the Kurt Geiger business. Our CapEx in the quarter was $8.5 million. We did not repurchase any shares in the open market during the second quarter, and we spent approximately $1 million on shares acquired through the net settlement of employee stock awards. The company's Board of Directors approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.21 per share. The dividend will be payable on September 24, 2026, to stockholders of record as of the close of business on September 11, 2026. Turning to our fiscal 2026 guidance.

We are raising our revenue and diluted earnings per share outlook. We now expect revenue to increase 11% to 13%, up from our prior guidance of 10% to 12% and diluted earnings per share to be in the range of $2.05 to $2.15, up from our prior guidance of $2 to $2.10. Unlike last year, when tariff disruption resulted in an unusual back half where the fourth quarter revenue and earnings exceeded third quarter levels, we expect a more typical cadence this year. Specifically, we expect Q3 to contribute more than Q4 to back half revenue and earnings. Now, I would like to turn the call over to the operator for questions. Debbie?

Operator: [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Anna Andreeva with Piper Sandler.

Unknown Analyst: This is [ Noah ] on for Anna. Just wanted to follow up on the annual sales guide. It implies more modest expectations in the second half. Can you elaborate just on that given the momentum we're seeing across the portfolio? Any color on what you're seeing in direct-to-consumer quarter-to-date and how you're approaching back-to-school? And just as a follow-up, can you comment on how Nordstrom's anniversary sale is going across the portfolio as we've been seeing some sell-outs?

Edward Rosenfeld: Great. Yes. Yes. In terms of the top line sales guide, I think it, we -- on an organic basis, we're looking for continued strong performance. I think that if you're looking at a slowdown on a consolidated basis, that's because we anniversary Kurt Geiger or just did anniversary in May. And so obviously, the inorganic growth contribution goes away. In terms of DTC, the momentum really continues into the quarter-to-date period, and we're seeing trends similar to what we saw in Q2. And then Nordstrom anniversary has been a really positive story for us. We're having really a phenomenal event.

Every -- I think every division in the company that participates in that sale is seeing increased sell-through versus the prior year. But the real standout has been that Steve Madden women's footwear business. If you recall, we had a very strong event last year. That's really when we started to see the inflection in that business and a significant improvement in sell-through. But even on top of the very strong -- or the very tough comparisons, we're seeing big increases in both overall volume and sell-through percentage. So very pleased with the Nordstrom anniversary performance.

Operator: The next question is from Paul Lejuez with Citigroup Inc.

Paul Lejuez: Curious if you can talk about how much of the full year raise was from the second quarter beat versus something that was changed in the second half. Maybe if you can talk about what has changed in your second half assumptions, if anything? And also, I would love to hear any more detail about how you're thinking on DTC versus wholesale in the second half and what you build into guidance for footwear versus apparel and accessories on the wholesale side?

Edward Rosenfeld: Okay. Sure. So in terms of the second quarter and then the back half with respect to the raise in revenue and earnings. So second quarter on a revenue -- from a revenue standpoint came in pretty close to our internal expectations. So the revenue raise is really related more to what we're seeing going forward. However, we did exceed expectations -- our internal expectations on the gross margin line in Q2, and that was the primary driver of a beat versus our internal forecast in Q2. So one comment I'll make there, though, is that we were modeling that -- if you're looking at the Street consensus numbers, we were modeling the quarterly breakdown differently from the Street.

And so we were ahead of -- our internal forecast was ahead of the Street for Q2. So while we did have a beat versus Q2, I think it was more like $0.07. We came in ahead of our expectation. And as you see, we're raising the full year by [ $0.05 ]. Keep in mind that we have incorporated an additional $0.06 of pressure from freight as the impact from the Iran conflict has gone on longer than we contemplated in the prior guidance.

Paul Lejuez: Got it. Then just DTC versus...

Edward Rosenfeld: Okay. So the next -- yes, the next part was DTC versus wholesale. So for the full year, I'm just going to give you the full year numbers. So -- which I guess you'd probably like it without Kurt Geiger's, just to make it cleaner. So high single digits for DTC, excluding Kurt Geiger. With Kurt Geiger, we're in the kind of low to mid-20s. And then wholesale, excluding Kurt Geiger, that's -- we're looking at low single digits. And then with Kurt Geiger, mid-single digits.

Zine Mazouzi: And Paul, sorry, I was just going to add some color on the freight side. As Ed mentioned, the conflict has gone on longer than contemplated. We actually successfully managed our ocean freight and the reduced kind of the impact that would come from those EBS or emergency bunker surcharges for oil rising. And -- but what we're seeing is higher air and air cost as we chase best sellers and also as we chase product in international market due to the supply chain or the ocean supply chain being disrupted in international markets, we're also using more air to chase product. Hence, why we added the $0.06 to the back half.

Paul Lejuez: Got it. And then just one follow-up. Did anything change in how you're thinking about the private label business?

Edward Rosenfeld: Not materially. I would say it got -- I think our expectation for the year got modestly better, but it's still obviously a pressure point. We're looking at that business to be down mid- to high teens for the year. And so just as additional color, I mentioned that the wholesale business, excluding Geiger, is forecasted to be up low singles. But obviously, that's being dragged down by that decline in private label. The branded business, we're looking at a high single-digit growth expectation for the year.

Operator: The next question is from Janine Stichter with BTIG.

Janine Hoffman Stichter: Can you elaborate a bit on what you're seeing on the branded side of the wholesale business? Curious if you're -- it sounds like you're not chasing, if you're getting reorders in the quarter, and then what the conversations with your wholesale partners have been like for the back half, if there's any change there?

Edward Rosenfeld: Yes. Look, we feel very good about that business, seeing very strong performance. It was up -- the branded business in wholesale in Q2 was up 20% year-over-year. And we continue to be very pleased with the sell-throughs. We're obviously getting reorders, and we've been chasing into strong sellers, and it's a positive story.

Janine Hoffman Stichter: And for your full year forecast, it does assume some deceleration. Does that continue to assume reorders in the holiday period? Or is that kind of assuming just the basic business?

Edward Rosenfeld: Well, keep in mind, we were also -- we were still down in that business in Q1. So you're right, I guess we're not assuming 20% for the full year, but we started a little bit in the hole, and we're catching up. I would say there's -- we've obviously got a reorder assumption in for Q4. Is there upside to that? Potentially, but we're just -- we got to get into the fall season and see how it goes before we build a lot of that activity into the forecast.

Operator: The next question is from Marni Shapiro with The Retail Tracker.

Marni Shapiro: Congratulations. I just wanted to check one thing on the $0.06 related to freight. I'm assuming that includes freight from the factories and then distributions to stores. What about shipping costs to customers for your direct-to-consumer business? Have you raised hurdles or changed prices? Or are you just absorbing that excess cost?

Zine Mazouzi: We're seeing pressure in that as well, and that's also built in our guide, but we have not -- we're absorbing that cost in the guide.

Marni Shapiro: Okay. So no impact to the consumer. And then could you just talk a nice rebound in the bag business that's exciting. Are you seeing increased orders from your wholesale partners in the bag business now? Or is it mostly your own and direct-to-consumer?

Edward Rosenfeld: Yes. We're seeing a big increase. In fact, so just for context, Steve Madden bags in the quarter overall across all channels was up about 30%. It was up more than that in wholesale. Now again, we had easy compares and it's not going to remain at that level. But still Steve Madden bags for the year is on track to be up double digits. So we feel good about that we're back on track there.

Marni Shapiro: That's amazing. And can I just sneak in one more. There's so many more styles now that are what I would call kind of seasonless, like boots are selling all year. At the moment, suede is so trendy, so suede is selling all year. So does that give you guys a little bit more of a base of solid product that could live a little longer on the shelves. It doesn't have to get marked down end of season? Or like how does that change your thinking, I guess, in how markdowns would happen? Because it feels to me like you could let some of this live longer, but I don't know.

Edward Rosenfeld: Yes, I think that's right. I mean, I think that we've got a number of products in the assortment here that can sell all year round. And particularly if you look at like this spring, the category that declined the most was the most seasonal category of sandals, and we saw increases in categories that we can sell more all year round. So we like that. That being said, we're still in the business of trend and the trend cycles move faster than ever today. So we're still -- we're not -- we're going to suddenly become a company that has a lot of styles that run for years and years and years.

Marni Shapiro: I'll leave it for somebody else. Best of luck for back to school and fall.

Operator: The next question is from Aubrey Tianello with PNB Paribas.

Lipeiwen Yang: This is Leah Yang on for Aubrey. Congrats on a nice quarter. So my first question is going to be on gross margin. I want to ask about gross margin for the rest of the year, especially now that you're lapping the acquisition of Kurt Geiger a couple of months ago. How should we think about the progression of gross margin in 3Q and 4Q?

Zine Mazouzi: I think for fall, when you look at the balance of the year, you have to remember this KG mix impact is pretty much going away in fall as we lap the acquisition, which was in May of last year. And we also start to lap our pricing initiatives, which went into effect last fall. So now we start to lap those. And there is less of a mix benefit from private label. And as we mentioned earlier, we're factoring in some pressure on the cost due to the conflict in the Middle East and on freight.

And also, we're seeing cost pressures coming from our suppliers since the conflict has gone on longer than expected, and it's becoming a lot harder to push them off. So we're absorbing some cost in our margin as well.

Edward Rosenfeld: So he gave you a lot of negative things there. I just want to wrap that up by saying we still expect to see year-over-year improvement in gross margin each quarter. It's just -- it's not going to be as significant as it was in the first half.

Lipeiwen Yang: Got it. And then moving down to SG&A. I want to ask about SG&A growth for the rest of the year. Should we still be modeling like low teens growth in 3Q and high singles in 4Q? Is there any change to that previous guide you provided last quarter? And then can you talk about some of the focus areas for the SG&A investment you're making this year?

Zine Mazouzi: So I think it's best to think about it as what we built in our guide is a 38.3% SG&A for the year. And when you factor in what the comments we made about a normalized sales flow between Q3 and Q4 that you'll see a lower percent as a percentage to sales in Q3 versus Q4. And from an SG&A perspective, as far as what we're doing, obviously, we'll continue to watch everything that we can and anything that we can control. And the only change from the last time in our last guidance is we increased our investment in marketing, in brand marketing.

Operator: The next question is from Dana Telsey with Telsey Advisory Group.

Dana Telsey: Nice to see the progress. As you mentioned, part of the uptick in gross margin was the higher ASPs. What are you seeing in wholesale and DTC and ASPs? How you're thinking about it going forward? And then any update on tariffs and how you're planning for the back half? And lastly, just on the retail stores, Ed, any difference between full price and outlet store performance?

Edward Rosenfeld: Sure. So as we -- as we got into Q2, we started layering on the price increases in the wake of tariffs last year in DTC, they started to hit in Q2 and then more of those roll through, through the balance of the year. We didn't really see any impact to -- any significant impact to wholesale until we got into the back half. So in Q2, whereas we had been running like in Q1, we were up -- AUR up 17% in DTC. That slowed to up high singles as we started to lap some of the increases from a year ago. And I think that will still moderate again in Q3.

Whereas wholesale, we were still up mid-teens in Q2 because we had not yet lapped any increases from the year before. But again, that will also moderate as we go into the back half. I'll address the stores, and I'll turn it over to Zine for the tariffs. The full-price stores continue to outperform outlet, but we've seen a really nice recovery in outlet. As you know, that's been a laggard for us. In the U.S., we were down 1% in Q1 in outlet, and that rebounded to up 12% in Q2. So a nice recovery there.

Again, not as strong as the full-price stores in the U.S., which were up 16% or e-commerce in the U.S. which is up 20%, but still a healthy number.

Zine Mazouzi: And Dana, from a tariff perspective, top level for Q3, we're basically in line with the announcements of the new 301 tariffs related to failure to, I guess, fight forced labor and anything that happened with Brazil. So those, as you know, went into effect Brazil on 7/22 and the main one that actually impacts us is the one, the 10% to 12.5% related to forced labor, and that went into effect on July 24th with some 4-day grace period. So we're reflecting Q3 as such. And for Q4, we're still assuming 15% built into our numbers. So it's a little bit higher than the currently announced tariffs.

But we also know that there are 2 more investigations that are pending, one for structural excess capacity and the other one for IP infringement, which targets just Vietnam. The first one, the excess capacity targets about 16 countries and about 5 or 6 of them are countries that we source from. So that's why we have the 15%.

Dana Telsey: Got it. And just one last follow-up. On the wholesale channel, how is the difference in performance of whether it's department stores, discounters, off-price? What are you seeing in terms of the difference of performance? And what are you expecting go forward from private label?

Edward Rosenfeld: Yes. I'd say anywhere we're selling -- I mean, the branded business is quite strong really across the board. It's strongest in the first tier channels, the department stores, the pure-play e-commerce retailers, the boutiques that we sell our latest fashion to. But we're doing pretty well with the brands across the board. Obviously, it's well documented that private label is a tougher part of the market for us right now in the mass channel, but we're hard at work at getting that straightened out.

Operator: This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ed Rosenfeld for any closing remarks.

Edward Rosenfeld: Great. Well, thanks so much for joining us today. We hope you enjoy the rest of your summer, and we look forward to speaking with you on the third quarter call.

Operator: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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