Kennametal (KMT) Q1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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DATE

Wednesday, Nov. 5, 2025 at 9:30 a.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

President & Chief Executive Officer — Sanjay K. Chowbey

Vice President & Chief Financial Officer — Patrick S. Watson

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TAKEAWAYS

Sales -- a 3% organic increase, marking the first organic growth in eight quarters.

Adjusted EPS -- Adjusted EPS was $0.34, up from $0.29 in the prior year quarter, due to higher volumes and a lower than anticipated tax rate.

Adjusted EBITDA Margin -- Adjusted EBITDA margin was 15.3%, supported by price actions, tariff surcharges, and restructuring savings.

Segment Organic Growth -- Both Metal Cutting and Infrastructure segments posted 3% organic sales growth.

End Market Growth -- Aerospace and defense grew 20% on a constant currency basis, earthworks grew 5% on a constant currency basis, and energy rose 1%, while transportation declined 1% and General engineering was flat year over year.

Regional Sales Performance -- Sales in The Americas rose 7%, EMEA sales were flat, and Asia Pacific decreased 1%, all on a constant currency basis.

Restructuring Savings -- $8 million realized in restructuring savings, with $6 million in Metal Cutting and $2 million in Infrastructure restructuring savings.

Shareholder Returns -- $25 million returned via $10 million in share repurchases and $15 million in dividends.

Free Operating Cash Flow -- Negative $5 million free operating cash flow, compared to positive $21 million in the prior year period, due to higher inventory investment from rising tungsten prices.

Working Capital -- Increased to $660 million, or 32% of sales, primarily from inventory tied to higher tungsten costs.

Fiscal 2026 Outlook (Sales) -- Updated guidance calls for sales between $2.1 and $2.17 billion for fiscal 2026 (ending June 30, 2026), with volume ranging from negative 1% to positive 3%, and combined price/tariff surcharge of approximately 7%.

Fiscal 2026 Outlook (Adjusted EPS) -- Range increased to $1.35 to $1.65, reflecting improved volume, additional pricing actions, and tariff surcharges.

Fiscal Q2 2026 Outlook -- Sales projected between $500 and $520 million, with volume from negative 4% to flat, price and tariff surcharge realization of around 7%, and adjusted EPS between $0.30 and $0.40.

Tariff and Pricing Response -- Management reaffirmed commitment to fully offset rising tungsten costs and tariffs through pricing, surcharges, and supply chain measures.

Large Project Wins -- Infrastructure secured two major earthworks contracts; Metal Cutting achieved new wins in energy, aerospace and defense, and transportation end markets.

Power Generation Opportunity -- Identified a $250 million total addressable market (TAM) in power generation, projecting 10% annual growth over the next few years.

Balance Sheet Liquidity -- Combined cash and revolver availability totaled approximately $800 million at quarter end, with no near-term debt maturities.

SUMMARY

Management raised fiscal 2026 sales and adjusted EPS guidance following stronger-than-expected first quarter performance, driven by resilient end market demand and successful project wins in targeted sectors. The company reported margin expansion, aided by price increases and tariff surcharges, which were implemented to counterbalance historically high tungsten costs, and expects further pricing tailwinds to continue into the third quarter before stabilizing. Higher working capital and negative free operating cash flow reflect increased inventory investment necessitated by raw material inflation. Management emphasized ongoing restructuring efforts, portfolio enhancement, and targeted investments in power generation and AI data centers as drivers for future growth. Liquidity and capital return priorities remain unchanged, with disciplined balance sheet management and a continued commitment to shareholder distributions.

Chowbey stated, "these wins position us well in markets that are benefiting from long-term secular growth trends," underscoring management’s strategic focus.

Watson noted, "If tungsten prices were to stick around where they are currently, we probably have our strongest EPS quarter in Q3," suggesting potential upside in future earnings if input cost trends persist.

The $8 million in restructuring savings forms part of a planned $35 million cost reduction for fiscal 2026, according to management commentary.

Price and surcharge realization, especially for tungsten, is expected to remain a positive margin driver through the third quarter, with the fourth quarter projected to reach price/cost neutrality.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

APT: Ammonium paratungstate, a key intermediate product in tungsten processing used for pricing referential purposes in the industry.

TAM (Total Addressable Market): Estimated revenue opportunity available for a specific market segment or application, such as power generation.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Thank you, Mike. Good morning and thank you for joining us. I'll begin the call today with a brief overview of the quarter, including some end market commentary followed by a spotlight on one of our growth focus areas, power generation. From there, Pat will cover the quarterly financial results, as well as the fiscal year 2026 outlook. Finally, I'll make some summary comments and then we will open the line for questions. Turning to Slide three. Let me begin by addressing some of the highlights from our strong first quarter. Our global commercial teams continue to advance our strategic growth initiatives. In the quarter, infrastructure secured two large project wins within our earthworks end market.

Both wins were a direct result of our team's efforts with those customers to deliver high-quality technical support and superior product performance. That combination has and will continue to be a winning formula for us. In metal cutting, we won projects in energy, aerospace and defense, and transportation. For example, we increased our share of wallet with an aerospace customer to provide high precision tooling solutions for machining military components. As you know, we continue to prioritize above-market growth and these wins position us well in markets that are benefiting from long-term secular growth trends.

We also continue to respond to the evolving tariff landscape and we remain committed to fully offsetting the impact of tariffs through various actions including product moves, supply chain optimization, and surcharges as appropriate. Separately, we have implemented pricing actions in response to the continuing rise in tungsten costs, which have increased since August and are at historically high levels. We remain confident in our ability to price to offset the rising tungsten cost. On the cost improvement front, we realized $8 million in restructuring savings this quarter. And we continue to execute our plans to lower structural costs by reducing employment costs and consolidating manufacturing operations.

Now let's move to our quarterly results, which exceeded the sales and EPS outlook we provided last quarter. Compared to the outlook, sales were primarily driven by better than expected volume across all end markets. EPS benefited from the additional volume and a lower than anticipated tax rate. Year over year, sales increased 3% organically. That's our first quarter of organic growth in two years and reflects modest relief from the broad market weakness that has impacted our end markets for the past eight quarters. As you may recall, historically down cycles tend to last four to eight quarters. Adjusted EPS increased to $0.34 compared to $0.29 in the prior year quarter.

In terms of profitability, adjusted EBITDA margin was 15.3% compared to 14.3% in the prior year quarter. Cash from operating activities year to date was $17 million compared to $46 million in the prior year period. Free operating cash flow year to date was negative $5 million compared to $21 million in the prior year. And finally, we returned $25 million to shareholders through share repurchases of $10 million and dividends of $15 million. Today, we are raising our sales and EPS outlook for fiscal 2026. This update reflects the modestly improved market conditions, additional price and tariff surcharges, and our favorable performance in the first quarter. Pat will provide more details on our updated outlook shortly.

In summary, we are pleased with this quarter's results and we continue to focus on delivering our commitments throughout fiscal 2026. Turning to Slide four, and our end market update. As a reminder, our full year outlook reflects forecasts of specific market drivers and general market conditions. I will focus on the bottom half of the slide and address the two markets that have changed since our last call. First, IHS estimates for transportation slightly improved from the previous estimate while still being in the negative low single-digit range. Volumes in The Americas have improved from the prior estimate partially offset by pressure that continues to impact EMEA.

And secondly, for Aerospace and Defense, expectations are improving as the aerospace industry has recovered from supply chain challenges and will benefit from the recent approval that will increase OEM production. Market factors remain mostly unchanged within the other end markets. Turning to Slide five. We are seeing emerging opportunities in power generation driven by rising demand for both renewable and traditional energy sources to support the expansion of AI data centers. This is an expanding opportunity for Kennametal across both of our segments and we are capitalizing on this trend. As we shared last quarter, we secured a key win in metal cutting connected to the backup generators that are providing energy security to those data centers.

And it's our deep expertise in application engineering and machining complex engine components that is positioning us particularly well to support customers as they manufacture backup power generation systems and utility-scale gas turbines. With respect to the gas turbines, these applications require the same capabilities that we have long applied in aerospace and defense. So this is also an area that we know very well. While this slide focused on metal cutting, the opportunity extends across both segments. In infrastructure, our wear-resistant solutions and a strong position in oil and gas extraction align with the growing need for natural gas as a reliable fuel source for uninterrupted power.

So while our recent wins are in backup power systems, the opportunity is much broader. And we're well-positioned to capitalize on that as the trend continues. Now let me turn the call over to Pat, who will review the first quarter financial performance and the outlook.

Patrick S. Watson: Thank you, Sanjay, and good morning, everyone. I will begin on Slide six with a review of the first quarter operating results. Sales were up 3% year over year on both a reported and organic basis. At the segment level, Metal Cutting and Infrastructure both increased 3% organically. And by end market on a constant currency basis, aerospace and defense grew 20%, Earthworks grew 5%, Energy increased 1%, General Engineering was flat, and Transportation declined 1%. Regionally, on a constant currency basis, sales in The Americas increased 7%, EMEA was flat, and sales decreased 1% in Asia Pacific. The sales performance this quarter exceeded the outlook we provided last quarter.

Relative to those expectations, share gains in Earthworks, better than expected auto build rates, and overall modest volume improvements were the catalysts for the outperformance. I will provide more color when reviewing the segment performance in a moment. Adjusted EBITDA and operating margins were 15.3% and 8.2% respectively versus 14.3% and 7.6% in the prior year quarter. The improved margin was driven by price and tariff surcharges and incremental year over year restructuring savings of $8 million, partially offset by higher compensation costs, tariffs, and general inflation, and a prior year benefit from net insurance proceeds of $4 million that did not repeat in the current year.

Adjusted EPS was $0.34 in the quarter versus $0.29 in the prior year period. The main drivers of our EPS performance are highlighted on the bridge on slide seven. The year over year effect of operations this quarter was positive $0.05. This reflects incremental restructuring benefits, favorable timing of price raw material costs, tariff surcharges, and the advanced manufacturing tax credit, partially offset by higher compensation costs, tariffs, and general inflation. The headwind of $0.04 from the net insurance benefits received in the prior year due to the tornado that damaged our Rogers facility. You can also see $0.04 of transactional gains related to preferential Bolivia exchange rates. Slides eight and nine detail the performance of our segments this quarter.

Reported metal cutting sales were up 5% compared to the prior year quarter with 3% organic growth and favorable foreign currency exchange of 2%. Regionally, excluding the effects of currency, The Americas increased 6%, EMEA increased 1%, and Asia Pacific declined 1%. Looking at sales by end market, Aerospace and Defense increased 16% year over year from improved build rates in The Americas and easing supply chain pressures in EMEA. Energy grew 12% this quarter, due to data center power generation wins. General engineering was flat year over year from lower production activity primarily in EMEA. And lastly, transportation declined 1% year over year due to project timing in Asia Pacific and an overall slowdown in EMEA and The Americas.

Metal Cutting adjusted operating margin of 8% decreased 20 basis points year over year primarily from higher compensation costs, tariffs, and general inflation. These factors were partially offset by higher prices and surcharges, and incremental year over year restructuring savings of approximately $6 million. Turning to slide nine for infrastructure. Infrastructure sales increased 3% organically with reported sales growth of 1%, which was negatively affected by three points from the divestiture which closed in June. Regionally, on a constant currency basis, Americas sales increased 7%, Asia Pacific was flat, and EMEA sales decreased by 3%.

Looking at sales by end market on a constant currency basis, aerospace and defense increased 28% from defense orders driven by continued execution on our growth initiatives in both EMEA and The Americas. Earthworks increased 5% due to mining share gains in The Americas and higher global construction demand, partially offset by Asia Pacific mining market softness. General Engineering was flat. And lastly, energy declined 5% mainly in EMEA driven by project timing and from a lower U.S. Land rig count. Adjusted operating margin increased 190 basis points to 8.8%, partially offset by prior year net insurance proceeds of $4 million and higher compensation costs and general inflation. Additionally, we recognized year over year restructuring savings of approximately $2 million.

Now turning to slide 10 to review our free operating cash flow and balance sheet. Our first quarter net cash flow from operating activities was $17 million compared to $46 million in the prior year period. The change in net cash flow from operating activities was driven by working capital changes including a higher investment in inventory primarily from rising tungsten prices. Because sales volumes declined less than normal from the 2025, and pricing and tungsten value was up, working capital is a more challenging comparison this quarter. Our first quarter free operating cash flow decreased to negative $5 million from positive $21 million in the prior year.

And on a dollar basis, year over year, primary working capital increased to $660 million and on a percentage of sales basis it increased to 32%. Net capital expenditures of $23 million declined modestly from $25 million in the prior year quarter. In total, we returned $25 million to shareholders through our share repurchase and dividend programs. We repurchased 475,000 shares or $10 million in Q1 under our $200 million authorization. And as we have every quarter since becoming a public company over fifty years ago, we paid a dividend to our shareholders. We remain committed to returning cash to shareholders while executing our strategy to drive growth and margin improvement.

We continue to maintain a healthy balance sheet and debt maturity profile with no near-term refunding requirements. At quarter end, we had combined cash and revolver availability of approximately $800 million and we're well within our financial covenants. The full balance sheet can be found on slide 17 in the appendix. Now on slide 11 regarding the full year outlook. We now expect FY 2026 sales to be between $2.1 and $2.17 billion with volume ranging from negative 1% to positive 3%, net price and tariff surcharge combined of approximately 7%, and we anticipate approximately 2% tailwind from foreign exchange. We now expect adjusted EPS to be in the range of $1.35 to $1.65.

The increased outlook reflects additional pricing actions related to the rising cost of tungsten and additional surcharges in place to address the changes in policy since our August call. The adjusted tax rate for the year is now 27% and as a result of the additional cash that we need to invest in inventory, due to higher tungsten costs, free operating cash flow as a percent of adjusted net income is now 100%. All of the other elements of our outlook remain unchanged. Turning to slide 12 regarding our second quarter outlook.

We expect Q2 sales to be between $500 and $520 million with volume ranging from negative 4% to flat, price and tariff surcharge realization of approximately 7%, and a 2% positive impact from foreign exchange. One comment regarding the adjusted effective tax rate this quarter. The rate of approximately 30% assumes a discrete item that is driving the rate higher in Q1 than our full year outlook. We expect adjusted EPS in the range of $0.30 to $0.40. The other key assumptions for the quarter are all noted on the slide. And with that, I'll turn it back over to Sanjay.

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Thank you, Pat. Turning to Slide 13. Let me take a few minutes to summarize. We delivered a solid first quarter thanks to modest improvements in a couple of end markets, project wins on the commercial side, and cost improvement actions. We continue to make steady progress on our strategic growth initiatives, lean transformation, and structural cost improvement while also exploring ways to strengthen our portfolio over time. In parallel, we are monitoring external drivers such as trade and monetary policies and raw material prices, and taking timely necessary actions. We remain confident in our plan for long-term value creation for our shareholders. And with that, operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator: Thank you. Today's first question comes from Angel Castillo with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Angel Castillo: Hi, good morning.

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Hey, good morning, Angel.

Angel Castillo: Good morning. Congrats on the strong quarter here. I just wanted to touch base a little bit more on the end market outlook. I think you noted a little bit on the kind of prepared remarks about what you're seeing across end markets. But I think it kind of stood out to me that some of the changes on slide four for each end market were quite notable in terms of going from down to up or materially kind of more into the double digits. All the while some of the kind of market factors that are listed below seemed a lot more muted to unchanged.

Can you just clarify, I guess, within each of these, what specifically is kind of driving the material kind of uplift? And in particular, maybe also from a regional standpoint, how should we think about the mix of which regions are driving kind of improved outlook for each of these?

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Yes. Thank you, Angel. Good question. So let me walk you through that slide which is Slide four. Just first of all, as a reminder, on that slide, the top half of the slide is basically reflecting our sales trend, the bottom half of the page reflects what is the external factor, which is the market. So in all of these end markets, there are three pieces. First one is APT and surcharge APT related price increase and surcharges. Second is the market itself, whether the market improved or stayed flat. And the third piece is project wins and share gains.

So as we discussed in our prepared remarks, there were definitely some markets where we had a bigger benefit of project wins. For example, in aerospace and also in energy, especially in the power generation side. Now let me walk you through the other factors. So like I said, APT and surcharge related price affects all end markets. Specific to where we saw changes in end market, in transportation and aerospace where we saw the biggest changes, let me walk you through that a little bit.

So for transportation, saw Americas coming out a little bit stronger in the Q1 and we have outlook at this point also for the full year and based on even IHS data that we expect while still being in the low single digit in a negative territory. The transportation, the IHS forecast at this point is improved from the prior outlook we had three months ago. In aerospace, the customer build rate and also supply chain constraint easing up and also from a defense perspective, definitely we are seeing the market to be stronger in that regard.

Earthworks, when you see the arrow going up on the top of the half of the page, that is mostly driven by share win. Same thing in energy. Energy is more or less staying flat. With respect to oil and gas. If you look at the rig counts and all that about the same as when we anticipated three months ago. But we have had good project wins when it comes to the power generation and that helping the energy. And in general engineering, we're saying improvements.

In Q1, we have seen some, but when you look at the full year, other than China, more or less, I think we're saying slight improvement or flattish type situation in the Gen Edge. When it comes to IPI. So that's really what we have at this point. Again, summary, APT and surcharge helping and share wins are also helping along with that and modest improvement in a couple of end markets.

Angel Castillo: That's very helpful. Thank you. And maybe just as my follow-up, just to kind of double click on some of these numbers, but maybe on the market share dynamic, could you just give us a little bit more color as to is that because the kind of cadence of wins here maybe seemingly accelerating in some of these end markets, is there something about either the product that's really resonating with customers? Is it more related to being competitive advantages to being a domestic producer?

And then as it relates to this or maybe more to the price dynamic that's driving some of these improvements, any concerns here that as you look at tungsten prices or kind of you're passing through higher prices here, any concerns that people start to consider either trading to other non-tungsten equipment or I guess anything that you would notice as it pertains to kind of elasticity of the customer to be willing to continue to kind of take these higher prices?

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Sure. So first of all, with this respect to share gain, it is definitely driven by what we discussed before, the three main drivers. First, innovative solutions. Secondly, our commercial excellence, which includes our engagement with customers and application support. And third, operational excellence. Our overall operational performance at this point, including safety by the way, safety, quality, on-time delivery has been very good. We continue to make good progress on that. So I think all of those combinations definitely helping us in share gain. With respect to I think just to confirm, your second part of the question can you remind me? Moving away from Okay. Yes. Sorry. Yes.

Angel Castillo: Yes. Just to solicit to the customer for the price increase.

Sanjay K. Chowbey: In tungsten. Got it. Yes, tungsten, yes. We have looked at that from our perspective, what we provide in terms of the innovative solutions I believe that the value customer get through our solutions has is very strong in terms of like even with higher tungsten prices, it will make more sense for them to continue using that. Rather than changing it to stainless steel or some other type because the performance that they receive from our solution will more than offset even the increase that they're going to see from the tungsten prices. So we don't see a big risk from that.

But Angel, to your broader question, as you look at some of the end markets, they are still on the fence. Can things get worse? Yes. Like we know there are monetary policies, trade policies, and things like that. So things can get worse. But overall, we have taken a very balanced approach. In terms of what we see from the market and also from price dynamics and on top of that overall our share gain initiatives.

Angel Castillo: Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question today comes from Tami Zakaria with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Tami Zakaria: Hi, good morning. Very nice quarter. Wanted to ask you about the $250 million TAM from engines, large engines, which I thought was very interesting. How much of this $250 million is simply volume? Or does it also include pricing? And I may have missed it, but what share of that $250 million do you realistically expect to gain over the next three years?

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Yes, Tami, good question. So first, let me explain that the $250 million that we have carved out to show as a TAM for power generation. Some of this used to sit within either energy or transportation. Now we have carved it out to say, what is it so that we can really focus on that. And then how much is the growth initiative here. At this point, as we pointed out there, if you look at the last two, three years, that market has been growing in the high single-digit range and we are still projecting it to grow at 10% for the next few years. So that's how we see it.

At this point, of course, the $250 million does include the latest price dynamics in that. But in the bigger picture, it does have like the historical trend is there from that perspective. And as far as we are concerned, market share wise, we don't disclose at this point about that information. However, we are very confident that our solutions and our overall value proposition with application support and custom solutions we're very well positioned to win in this.

Tami Zakaria: Understood. That is very helpful. I wanted to ask you about the energy end market outlook a bit. I think it improved to mid-single digit from flat if I'm reading it correctly. What's really driving this improved outlook for energy? Rig counts are still down. Is it well? So could you just elaborate on that a little bit?

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Yes. As you look at that again slide four, in the bottom half of the page, are clearly telling you that oil and gas stays about the same. Right? It's not getting worse. That's the good news. But overall sales, which is in the top half of the page, we are saying it's improving because we have definitely impact of APT related price increase and also surcharges if applicable. And as you know, a lot of products that are used in oil and gas do have very heavy content or greater content of the raw material.

Patrick S. Watson: Tami, keep in mind that across our energy portfolio, at between both businesses, it's pretty diversified. So beyond having the exposure in oil and gas which we think of primarily in infrastructure, metal cutting has some exposure there as well. Obviously, we've been talking about the opportunities we have in reciprocating power gen in more traditional power gen sort. And as you followed us over the last couple of years, the great position we have in wind power as well.

Angel Castillo: Just to come back to the share gain dynamics a little bit. I know this is something you've obviously embedded in your multiyear outlook since 2023, so it's nice to see it coming through. I guess, just now that we're starting to see this a little bit more visibly you started to talk about it more. What visibility do you have to anything else in kind of lined up that could materialize in some program wins over the next couple of quarters?

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Yeah. Again, good question, Steven. Let me start by, you know, first addressing some of the higher growth end markets. That we see right now from aerospace and defense, we have had success in that for the last two, three years. Actually, have talked about it all the way back in the Investor Day. And we have a good pipeline of projects that we continue to work on. Then when it comes to power generation, we already talked about a little bit. So that also has a good pipeline. It comes to transportation, we will position ourselves very well as the transportation industry was going through quite a bit of dynamic shift in terms of the power trend.

And we have solutions which will support whether a customer launches new internal combustion engine, or hybrid, or plug-in hybrid, or battery-only electric vehicle. We have good solutions and we have very good strong application for that. So well positioned on that. And in parallel, continue to work on earthworks as you saw some of the project wins we reported in Q1. And finally, coming to general engineering, our strong relationships with our channel partner and really working together to do what's best for our end customers have also bode well for us and we'll continue to work on all of these five end markets.

Angel Castillo: That's really helpful. And then I guess just on the tungsten price, can you just talk about how much of that top line benefit and then margin dynamic you saw in Q1, relative to what might still be ahead? What could you still see there in Q2? And are you expecting to see things in balance between what you're passing along and what you're experiencing by Q3?

Patrick S. Watson: Yes. If we think about that phenomenon, we saw a modest amount of tailwind, I would say, Steve, in the first quarter. Right? And then what you're going to see here as we go into Q2. Now Q2 we'll see a little bit of ramp up there. Price will go up. We'll get a little bit of tailwind from that. We did see we thought a little bit of advanced buying here in Q1. Call that low single digits that might be flopped between Q1 and Q2. From a volume perspective. And that's part of what's animating, I'll say, our volume outlook for Q2.

But as you think about Q3, Q3 we should see a pretty significant step up in price raw. If tungsten prices were to stick around where they are currently, we probably have our strongest EPS quarter in Q3. As we get into Q4, get into basically price raw neutrality. At this point in time. And as we've talked about on prior calls, we tend to what flows through the P and L tends to lag the market by about two quarters. If we were to see increases in tungsten prices throughout this quarter, that would tell us that period of favorable price raw would continue more into the fourth quarter.

Obviously, if we were to see some of that tungsten price roll off, we would start seeing some of that fall through in Q4 as well. But right now, our outlook assumes stable pricing. For the balance of the year from a tungsten perspective.

Angel Castillo: Fantastic. Thank you.

Operator: Our next question today comes from Steve Barger at KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Steve Barger: Hey, thanks. Good morning.

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Good morning.

Steve Barger: Going back to data center, you said some of that TAM used to sit in energy or transportation. So what is the incremental machining opportunity you see from data center? And can you frame up, does it add single-digit millions revenue, double-digit millions? How are you thinking about that?

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Yes, Steve, it's definitely built into that $250 million. At this point, over the last few years, we have seen that in the $100 million range and then we're raising it to a 10% CAGR.

Steve Barger: Got it. And then Sanjay, going back to your comment on some higher expectations for general engineering, I think everybody is looking for the turn there. So is your outlook based on expectations for improvement? Just due to how long this downturn has been? Or is it customers saying they want to restock? Or are they seeing actual demand pick up that they're either seeing it or they're planning for it? Can you just frame up that comment?

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Yes, sure. Steve, when it comes to general engineering, I think at this point by region, I'll comment a little bit. In U.S, and Americas in general, we saw slight improvement. And by the way, you'll hear the word slight quite a bit here just because we are on the I can tell you that even if you look at our outlook the way we have framed it, overall volume for the full year, we are saying at midpoint is 1%. So that gives you the idea that we are right on the fence. Slight bit of improvement in IPI will help us and that's what we have built. Because that's what we have seen from external projection perspective.

In recent months, we have seen some improvement in Americas. EMEA in Q1 we saw, but the projection for the rest of the year is more flattish. In China, have seen positive projection, slight bit of positive projection.

Steve Barger: Understood. Thank you for that clarification. Hi, Chris. I guess just to circle back to the earlier question, can you kind of help frame for us what the assumed price cost impact actually is in the guide? Are we assuming dollar neutrality for the year? Is it dollar positive margin? Can you just kind of walk us through what's actually assumed in your guide from a price cost perspective here?

Patrick S. Watson: Yes. So I would say for the full year, there will be positive price raw, right? And you just kind of have to look through where the volume is because again, volume at this point in time on a full year basis as Sanjay just talked about it's up 1%. At the midpoint of the guide. In addition to that, I would just point out to you that if you think about some of the comments we had last quarter in terms of some of the tailwinds we had in the prior year, that are just not repeating here. This year.

So when we just think about that overall profitability and EPS walk, we will have some benefits obviously from the restructuring coming through. We're going to have significant amounts of cost inflation here coming through in the business whether that relates to tungsten tariff costs as well as I would say the normal salary inflation that comes about in addition to some of the headwinds that we've got in. In terms of $15 million that we talked about in the prior quarter in terms of excuse me here, net tornado benefits that occurred in the prior year and some additional tax credits that came through from a tungsten perspective as well as about a $5 million pension headwind.

So we'll see that positive price raw here in really in Q3. And as we just talked about previously when we get out to Q4, we'll really get to a more neutral basis.

Steve Barger: Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And then as we think about those restructuring savings, any additional color either in terms of the ratability there or maybe just even how to think about what the key programs are inside that restructuring savings?

Patrick S. Watson: Yes. I'd say it's pretty ratable throughout the year. Maybe with a little bit of a trail off in Q4 as we start lapping some stuff. In terms of what's in that program, we've done some shifting of resources that would spend being able to unlock some costs as well as in the last year talked about the closure of two facilities one here in The U.S. and the consolidation of two locations in Spain that are driving that.

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Yes. We are on track for the $35 million that we have projected for the year.

Steve Barger: Got it. Thanks so much guys.

Michael Pici: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question today comes from Julian Mitchell of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Julian Mitchell: Hi, Julian. Hi, good morning.

Angel Castillo: Hey, I just wanted to try and dial in again a little bit on the sort of EPS guide change and the moving parts there. So I think the guide midpoint went up by sort of €40 or so. Maybe €05 of that is the lower tax rate. So are we right in thinking that sort of the price cost part of that $0.40 is kind of more than half of it? So maybe, I know, $0.02 0, 0.3 tailwind from price cost versus the prior guide. And then it sounds like a lot of that comes in the third fiscal quarter.

And as we look ahead, simplistically if the tungsten price stays where it is today, is it sort of neutral after this year? Or does it sort of flip to a kind of headwind as your COGS catch up? Just trying to understand that dynamic, please.

Steve Barger: Yes. Good questions, Julien. I would say the best way to think about the change in the outlook is you know you got outlook to outlook, there's really two primary changes. One is volume and the second one is price, right? And so there is some incremental volume in there. In terms of the change and you can probably call that in EPS terms $0.2 ish $0.25 $0.30 right. I think that tax number is probably a little bit hot. So it's probably closer to about $0.3 a tax ETR to ETR. When you do the math Julien. And then so you'll have some remainder in that and they're included in that.

Is price raw favorability that's in the year, but you've also got some muting of that is some higher variable comp. Okay, that's also nestled in there. So as you think about Q4, I'm going switch now to talking about this sequentially because I think on a year over year basis becomes a little more difficult. Q4 effectively what's in the outlook is neutrality. And unless there's a change in tungsten, right, we would expect the price raw neutral on that piece. Going forward from that as you think about the following fiscal year. Right?

As we think about that from a headwind perspective, yes, there is some favorability this year that we will have on price raw that won't repeat next year, right. When you do that from a year over year perspective, I appreciate that would be seen as a headwind. But if you think of it sequentially, we'll be on the same basis.

Julian Mitchell: That's helpful. Thank you. Pat, so you've got sort of that as you said it's sort of $0.20 to $0.30 price cost tailwind this year. Is that right?

Steve Barger: Yes. I'd go back to the math I just kind of gave you there Julien. So. Yes, think Julien keep that in mind as Pat said that volume which again if you look at prior outlook versus this outlook, has improved by three fifty basis points. Price improved by 300 basis points. Average was 4%, now it's seven. So it gives you idea that volume is playing a role in EPS. And within the volume, you've got project wins, you've got some improvement in market, and then also, I think those are the two main component of that.

Julian Mitchell: That's helpful. Thank you. And then just sort of second question would be around just the sort of power gen exposure and you have that helpful kind of slide five that you've touched on a couple of times already. Just wanted to understand what is your revenue sort of exposure as pertains to that Slide five material? What was your dollar revenue in the last twelve months or fiscal twenty five? Or just trying to understand what your sort of jumping off point is today in revenue as we look ahead to that TAM expansion?

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Yes. Gideon, we're not disclosing that deeper detail, but let me just tell you the information you have. If you look at the metal cutting slide, you will see that metal cutting energy had improved by 12%. Whereas infrastructure and energy had a decline. This is Q1. By 5%. That will tell you, you can do some math in that and you can see that some of the increase in metal cutting energy revenue is driven by some of those projects.

Julian Mitchell: That's great. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question today from Joe Ritchie of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Joe Ritchie: Hi, Joe. Hey, guys. Good morning. Yes, nice to see the strong start to the Just to couple of quick ones. I know we've talked a lot about tungsten. It's interesting to me the look tungsten prices were up materially this past quarter. And, Pat, you kind of talked through the dynamics of typically takes a couple of quarters. Just wondering, anything changed from a timing standpoint in your ability to pass through price earlier than you have historically? It just seems like the dynamics have gotten perhaps a little bit better on the margin there. Just any thoughts around that would be helpful.

Patrick S. Watson: Yes. I think two things to think about there as it relates to pricing. We've got two semi unique circumstances. Going on simultaneously here. One is where Tungsten is sitting at today is a historical high. Right? And then secondly, I would say, we've got the tariff surcharges that are in place, which are a unique event for us and many other companies in terms of how they've had to deal with some of the tariff costs. So I think the situation is pretty unique that we're in at the moment. I do credit the commercial teams. They have gotten out there and been aggressive sure we're raising prices to cover the costs. And that's never an easy conversation.

With the client. No client ever really wants to have their price raise. But as Sanjay talked about previously, we remain very confident in our ability to go out there and get the cost. And make sure we're covering for it. We've had a track record of doing so. And I think some of the commercial capabilities that as an organization that we've developed over the last couple of years, not only do they help us in terms of going out and winning market share, but they also help us in terms of making sure we're accurately pricing for the product that we have and the value we're creating for the customer.

Joe Ritchie: Got it. That's helpful. And I guess just maybe following up on that tariff discussion. To the extent that you're putting surcharges through, how are you guys thinking about you know, a situation in which tariffs are potentially rolled back? What does that ultimately mean for kind of like the price cost equation that you have baked into the guide for the year?

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Yes, sure. Joe, think first of all, tariff situation as you guys know has been very dynamic. And we have taken in a very broad sets of actions starting with like production moves, supply chain optimization and where necessary, we did implement surcharges. And as things have changed, those surcharges also have been very dynamic from our side. For example, when the tariff for products going from U.S. to Canada, that was taken down. We took the surcharges out. So we are very quickly adopting and doing what we need to do to recoup cost that we need to, but at the same time being very, very competitive in the market. So we'll continue to do that.

And in the long term, let's just some of the tariffs that we get to a point where they become permanent, then we will make those changes in the permanent prices. That's the way we are looking at it.

Joe Ritchie: Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session. Like to turn the conference back over to Sanjay K. Chowbey for closing remarks.

Sanjay K. Chowbey: Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. As always, we appreciate your interest and support. Please don't hesitate to reach out to Mike if you have any questions. Have a great day.

Joe Ritchie: Thank you.

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