Rimini Street (RMNI) Q1 2026 Earnings Transcript

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DATE

Thursday, April 30, 2026 at 5 p.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

• Chief Executive Officer — Seth Ravin
• Chief Financial Officer — Michael Perica

TAKEAWAYS

• Revenue -- $105.5 million, representing a 1.2% increase year over year; excluding Oracle PeopleSoft support, the growth rate was 5.2%.
• Billings -- $95.3 million, up 19.9% year over year; excluding PeopleSoft-related billings, the increase was 22.9%.
• Gross Margin -- 59.0% (GAAP) and 59.5% (Non-GAAP), both down 2 percentage points from the prior year, impacted by front-loaded investments and higher start-up costs for certain engagements.
• Adjusted EBITDA -- $8.9 million, or 8.4% of revenue, versus $15.7 million and 15.1% of revenue in the prior year.
• Net Income -- $1.4 million ($0.01 per diluted share) on a GAAP basis; Non-GAAP net income was $4 million ($0.04 per diluted share), both declining compared to the prior-year period.
• Annualized Recurring Revenue (ARR) -- $400.8 million, increasing 1.2% year over year.
• Revenue Retention Rate -- 88% for service subscriptions, with approximately 81% of subscription revenue noncancelable for at least 12 months.
• Remaining Performance Obligations (RPO) -- $643.6 million, up 16.4% year over year; excluding PeopleSoft support, RPO rose 18.2%.
• Cash Balance -- $132.2 million at period end, up from $122.6 million prior year.
• Operating Cash Flow -- $24.5 million, compared to $33.7 million in the prior year's first quarter.
• Deferred Revenue -- $277.3 million, rising from $256.4 million in the prior year.
• Debt Reduction -- $10 million in voluntary principal prepayments lowered outstanding debt to $58.4 million, with a net cash position of $73.8 million at quarter end.
• New Large Client Transactions -- Closed 11 new deals with over $1 million in TCV totaling $33 million, up from 5 such transactions totaling $5.6 million the prior year; 60% were in North America, which had none last year.
• Client Additions -- Added 50 new client logos, including both global and regional brands.
• PeopleSoft Revenue Decline -- Revenue from Oracle PeopleSoft support was 3% of total revenue, down from approximately 7% in the prior year and 8% at wind-down start.
• Sales and Marketing Expense -- 36.6% of revenue (GAAP) and 35.8% (Non-GAAP), up from 32.9% and 32% last year, respectively, due to accelerated investments in growth opportunities.
• General and Administrative Expense -- 16.9% of revenue (GAAP) and 15.7% (Non-GAAP), both largely flat year over year, with no material ongoing litigation expense expected.
• Research and Development (R&D) -- $571,000 incurred and now reported as a separate line item, with management expecting this to rise to about 1% of revenue by year-end.
• Guidance -- Q2 revenue projected at $106 million-$108 million; full-year guidance unchanged with revenue growth of 4%-6% and adjusted EBITDA margin of 12.5%-15.5%, supporting pursuit of Rule of 20.
• Strategic Focus -- Management reiterated commitment to AI-powered ERP modernization via proprietary Agentic AI ERP products and Smart Path methodology, noting increased deal sizes and contract durations as clients seek longer-term solutions.

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RISKS

• Gross margin fell to 59.0% (GAAP), with management attributing the decline to "investments pulled forward in the year to take advantage of market opportunities and select non-subscription engagements that had large, front-loaded start-up costs," which may impact short-term profitability.
• Adjusted EBITDA margin dropped from 15.1% to 8.4%, reflecting higher expenses and lower gross profitability versus the prior year.
• Net income per diluted share decreased to $0.01 (GAAP) and $0.04 (Non-GAAP), with both metrics down from the previous year, indicating near-term earnings pressure despite revenue growth.
• Operating cash flow decreased to $24.5 million from $33.7 million the prior year, signaling reduced cash generation despite an improved topline.

SUMMARY

Rimini Street (NASDAQ:RMNI) delivered moderate top-line growth, led by acceleration in new large client contracts and rising recurring revenue, while reporting margin compression driven by accelerated investments in strategic opportunities. The transition away from support for Oracle's PeopleSoft contributed to both lower PeopleSoft-related revenue and improving underlying growth rates in the core business. Enhanced client demand for AI-driven ERP modernization is reflected in rising contract values and longer deal durations, as management positions the company for an expanded solutions-focused role. Decreased GAAP and non-GAAP earnings, combined with lower operating cash flow and higher sales, marketing, and R&D spend, highlighted near-term profit trade-offs amid ongoing strategic investment.

• Management stated that "gross margin in the period was negatively impacted by investments pulled forward in the year to take advantage of market opportunities."
• The company confirmed that "do not expect litigation expenses to be material on a going-forward basis and are now including any residual legal costs in the G&A line item."
• R&D expenses are newly reported, reflecting increased focus on proprietary AI ERP product innovation, with management projecting further incremental investment to support growth goals.
• CEO Ravin said, "Our goal is, of course, to see that TTM return to over a 90% number. And we feel that we should start to see it show up in the metrics starting in the next quarter or so," aiming for improved client retention in future quarters.
• Management emphasized that Agentic AI ERP revenue is not yet material but could increasingly influence sales activity due to its perceived value as a modernization path away from vendor upgrades.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

• Total Contract Value (TCV): The aggregate value of a customer contract over its full term, including all committed subscription, support, and service fees.
• Agentic AI ERP: Rimini Street's proprietary suite of AI-driven solutions designed to augment and modernize clients' existing enterprise resource planning (ERP) systems without requiring vendor-driven upgrades or migrations.
• Rule of 20: A financial metric combining revenue growth rate and adjusted EBITDA margin, targeted to sum at least 20% to indicate quality growth and profitability; "Rule of 40" is a similar metric with a 40% threshold.
• PeopleSoft Support Wind-Down: The gradual discontinuation of Rimini Street's support and services for Oracle's PeopleSoft software as required by a legal settlement, materially affecting associated revenue streams.
• Smart Path: Rimini Street's three-step methodology designed to help clients self-fund and accelerate ERP innovation, especially AI, without undergoing disruptive upgrades or migrations.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Seth Ravin: Thank you, Dean, and thank you, everyone, for joining us. First quarter results. Our first quarter results reflect continued growth and accelerating momentum. A growing number of organizations are leveraging Rimini support and our proven Rimini Smart Path to execute their global ERP and operational transaction processes faster, better and cheaper with more agility and speed to value, all within existing budgets. Rimini Street can help just about any organization lower its total operating costs and improve competitive advantage or improve return for government constituents using technology.

We delivered strong growth in adjusted calculated billings and adjusted ARR and expanded remaining performance obligations year-over-year, adjusted for the Oracle PeopleSoft support and services wind down and which includes new logo and renewal subscription sales. We also continue to make additional strategic investments in our next-generation Rimini Agentic AI ERP solutions that can be quickly deployed over existing ERP software without the cost and risk of unnecessary upgrades, migrations or re-platforming. During the quarter, we closed 11 new client transactions with over $1 million in TCV and totaling $33 million compared to 5 transactions totaling $5.6 million during the same period last year. We added 50 new logos that included household global and regional brand wins.

The combined strength of the second half of 2025 and first quarter 2026 results give us continued confidence in delivering growth in fiscal 2026, positioning the company for increased growth and profitability. We are continuing our evolution beyond our position as the premier third-party enterprise software support provider to a leader in also helping clients modernize their existing business transaction systems in the AI era. We are now the software support and Agentic AI ERP company. Today, more than 1,900 Rimini Street employees in 22 countries are helping organizations avoid unnecessary, costly and risky ERP and other enterprise software upgrades, migrations and re-platformings that often deliver low ROI and offer little competitive advantage.

Instead, Organizations can invest in modernization of their existing systems, leveraging next-generation Rimini Agentic AI ERP solutions that can be quickly and economically deployed over their current ERP and other enterprise software and deliver real competitive advantage. We believe we can help organizations achieve significant IT operating cost savings, improve profitability, enhance competitive advantage and accelerate growth. Our clients have already realized over $10 billion in operational savings. Rimini Street leads an Agentic AI ERP. We are helping clients set a new vision, technical and functional path forward from their current vendor ERP software release.

A path does not require any return to the vendor for a future upgrade or migration to their current ERP software release in order to achieve innovation and modernization. The client can innovate and modernize their existing ERP software and other enterprise software using Agentic AI ERP solutions deployed easily, economically right over the top of their existing software releases. The Rimini Smart Path is our proprietary proven 3-step methodology that clients can use to self-fund and accelerate innovation, especially AI and automation without undergoing costly, risky or unnecessary ERP upgrades or rip and replace migrations by leveraging and modernizing existing IT environments, all without operational disruption.

Rimini Agentic UX is our AI-driven experience and automation layer that is deployed right over existing client ERP software and turns their ERP software from a static system of record into an autonomous system of action, delivering innovation and modernization in weeks, not years, and at a fraction of the cost of a major upgrade migration or re-platforming project. Client success stories. Rimini Street is helping clients across many industries, geographies and software, protect and optimize their core ERP systems while funding innovation and modernization, including fixing broken processes, automating workflows and functions and using AI to solve specific business challenges without disruptive, costly or risky ERP software upgrade migrations or re-platforming.

Here are a few examples of how Rimini Street solutions for SAP, Oracle and VMware software are enabling innovation, transforming an improved competitive advantage for clients. Cubic Corporation, a U.S. defense and transportation technology company, so that partnering with Rimini Street allowed them to gain full control of their SAP road map, avoid a costly S/4HANA upgrade and reallocate savings and internal capacity towards automation, AI and broader modernization initiatives. Flexitech, a French automotive products company, said that they chose Rimini Support to help reduce risk and operational disruption in its SAP environment, strengthening cybersecurity posture and accelerating compliance readiness while enabling the reallocation of savings towards R&D and modernization programs.

Cleanera, a South Korean paper and hygiene products company, said they were able to cut SAP and Oracle vendor maintenance costs by approximately 50% with Rimini Street, stabilizing their core ERP environment and freeing budget and talent to accelerate AI, analytics, cloud expansion and IoT-driven operational improvements. Elmort, a Brazilian industrial company, said that unifying support across VMware and SAP with Rimini Street created the opportunity to increase operational stability and security while redirecting budget internal resources from maintenance to sustainability and growth initiatives. Partners, alliances and channels. We continued strengthening and maturing our indirect sales ecosystem, including adding new partner managers for strategic technology, services and channel relationships.

During the quarter, we closed accretive sales transactions globally that we do not believe we would have otherwise closed without partners. These partnerships extend our reach, bring complementary expertise and help clients execute modernization strategies that combine Rimini Street support with world-class platforms, cloud services and AI tooling. The ecosystem is becoming a strategic multiplier for us, accelerating adoption, expanding influence and enabling shared go-to-market opportunities. Summary. We are focused on accelerating growth, improving profitability and delivering shareholder return.

We plan to leverage Rimini Street's proprietary unique and proven Smart Path methodology, service portfolio and capabilities to help a growing list of clients take back control of their technology road map and spending and successfully navigate business and technical complexity in the age of AI. Now over to you, Michael.

Michael Perica: Thank you, Seth, and thank you for joining us, everyone. Q1 results. Our first quarter results reflect solid execution and continued sign of momentum, highlighted by remaining performance obligations, RPO, and billings growth, along with a return to top line growth despite the headwinds from the wind-down of support and services for Oracle's PeopleSoft software. Our strong operating cash flow and cash position enabled us to comfortably make $10 million of additional voluntary principal prepayments that reduced our debt balance to $58.4 million and increased our net cash position to $73.8 million at the end of the quarter. Revenue for the first quarter was $105.5 million, a year-over-year increase of 1.2%.

Excluding support services for PeopleSoft products, revenue increased by 5.2% year-over-year. FX movements impacted first quarter revenue negatively by 0.5%. Annualized recurring revenue was $400.8 million for the first quarter, a year-over-year increase of 1.2%. Our revenue retention rate for service subscriptions, which makes up 95% of our revenue, was 88%, with approximately 81% of subscription revenue noncancelable for at least 12 months. Billings for the first quarter were $95.3 million, an increase of 19.9% year-over-year. When excluding billings associated with support services for PeopleSoft products, the year-over-year increase was 22.9%. Gross margin was 59.0% of revenue for the first quarter compared to 61.0% of revenue for the prior year first quarter.

On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes stock-based compensation expense, gross margin was 59.5% of revenue for the first quarter compared to 61.5% of revenue for the prior year first quarter. Our gross margin in the period was negatively impacted by investments pulled forward in the year to take advantage of market opportunities and select non-subscription engagements that had large, front-loaded start-up costs. Nonetheless, as noted during our Investor Day presentation last December, our use of innovation and other analytics deployed on top of our existing systems of record provides us with confidence in our ability to build from this current gross margin level and achieve the targets we outlined. Operating expenses.

Reorganization charges associated with optimization costs for the first quarter were $407,000. Also, we have carved out our R&D expenditures of $571,000 in the quarter in a separate line item that reflects our ongoing and increasing research and development activity for our proprietary historical offerings as well as our burgeoning Agentic AI ERP and UX solutions. Sales and marketing expense as a percentage of revenue was 36.6% for the first quarter compared to 32.9% of revenue for the prior year first quarter. On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes stock-based compensation expense, sales and marketing expense as a percentage of revenue was 35.8% for the first quarter compared to 32% of revenue for the prior year first quarter.

Our sales and marketing costs in the period was negatively impacted by investments pulled forward in the year to take advantage of market opportunities. General and administrative expenses as a percentage of revenue was 16.9% of revenue for the first quarter compared to 16.8% of revenue for the prior year first quarter. On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes stock-based compensation expense, G&A was 15.7% of revenue for the first quarter compared to 15.6% of revenue for the prior year first quarter. As we stated in our most recent earnings call, we do not expect litigation expenses to be material on a going-forward basis and are now including any residual legal costs in the G&A line item in our income statement.

Net income attributable to shareholders for the first quarter was $1.4 million or $0.01 per diluted share compared to the prior year first quarter of $0.04 per diluted share. On a non-GAAP basis, net income for the first quarter was $4 million or $0.04 per diluted share compared to the first quarter of the prior year of $0.10 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA, as defined in our earnings release and now excludes unrealized FX translation adjustments was $8.9 million for the first quarter or 8.4% of revenue compared to the prior year's first quarter of $15.7 million or 15.1% of revenue. Balance sheet.

We ended the first quarter of 2026 with a cash balance of $132.2 million compared to $122.6 million of cash for the prior year first quarter. On a cash flow basis, first quarter operating cash flow increased $24.5 million compared to the prior year's first quarter increase of $33.7 million. Deferred revenue as of March 31, 2026, was $277.3 million compared to deferred revenue of $256.4 million for the prior year first quarter. Remaining performance obligations, RPO, which includes the sum of billed deferred revenue, contract assets and noncancelable future revenue was $643.6 million as of March 31, 2026, compared to $553.1 million for the prior year first quarter, an increase of 16.4%.

When excluding RPO relating to support services for PeopleSoft products, the year-end balance increased 18.2%, reflecting our building momentum with both new bookings growth and longer duration commitments. PeopleSoft support wind-down update. As we discussed during previous quarter's earnings conference calls, our July 2025 settlement agreement with Oracle provides amongst other obligations and terms between the parties that the company will complete its previously announced wind-down of its support and services for Oracle's PeopleSoft software no later than July 31, 2028. We have made progress in reducing both the number of PeopleSoft's software support clients and related revenues since announcing the wind down.

Revenue from PeopleSoft software support services was 3% of revenue for the first quarter compared to approximately 7% for the previous year first quarter and down from 8% of revenue when we began the wind-down process during the second half of 2024. Business outlook. The company is providing second quarter 2026 revenue guidance to be in the range of $106 million to $108 million and reiterating the full year 2026 guidance provided at our Investor Day in December 2025 of revenue growth in the 4% to 6% range and adjusted EBITDA margins in the 12.5% to 15.5% range, combined to achieve Rule of 20.

For additional information, please see the disclosures in our Form 10-Q filed today, April 30, 2026, with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we'll now take questions.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Brian Kinstlinger from Alliance Global Partners.

Brian Kinstlinger: You talked about stronger bookings trends that have started since the second half of '25. Can you provide any quantifiable context maybe year-over-year comparisons? Are there booking totals you can provide or a book-to-bill? And then lastly, maybe from a qualitative standpoint, discuss domestic versus international.

Seth Ravin: Sure, Brian. Seth here. As we said starting mid-last year, we started to see an uptick, and we've shown it, of course, in the billings and bookings numbers. The compares, I think, have already been in each of the releases. So, the team will be happy to get you those at a later date. But I think we're seeing continued growing demand. We're seeing continued growing pipelines. And those are now converting as you're seeing into larger contracts. We're seeing longer-term contracts. Just look at the number of deals with TCV over $1 million, even in North America, where we had 0 of those deals in Q1 of last year, 60% of those deals were in North America this year.

So, we're seeing all different indicators of continued growing demand and our ability to execute continues to get better and better. So, we're pleased with what we saw happening in Q1 and how it sets us up even for the full year.

Brian Kinstlinger: And then a follow-up on that. You mentioned in your prepared remarks and just now as well about the longer duration. I think traditionally, you've had 1-year contracts, correct me if I'm wrong, whereas the renewable for every year. What's happening now? What are you seeing in terms of duration? Or maybe dig a little deeper into what you're describing as longer duration?

Seth Ravin: Well, I think our average contract length before used to be something short of 3 years, about 2.5, 2.6 years for a new contract. And we're seeing longer-term contracts being signed. And I think the indication of that is we're watching customers think about a much longer term for this next phase of technology transition. And they're looking at their existing systems. They're looking at the amount of change that's coming their way or being pushed their way, realizing a lot of it isn't going to generate the kind of return on investment or the competitive advantage they need. And they're looking to us for longer-term solutions. And I think that's what you're seeing play out in the contracts.

Brian Kinstlinger: Okay. My last question is, last quarter, you highlighted 26 customers that were testing their Argentic AI solutions. Maybe you can update us on that number, share what feedback you're getting from them and timelines to production? And then lastly, how would you want to be measured over the next 18 months on your progress of that new solution? Is it improving organic growth rates? Are you going to discuss the revenue contribution? Just how should investors think about that?

Seth Ravin: Well, I think how we should think about it is exactly based on the guidance. It's about growth. The fact that we're returning to growth against the headwinds of the PeopleSoft wind down is certainly a nice indicator. And I think the fact that we would return to growth with a mid-single digit this year, as we said, a Rule of 20 is what we're aiming for between the top line and a bottom line, want to give ourselves a little range and flexibility between the top line and bottom line.

And then look to us to get to that Rule of 40 that we want to get to, which, of course, requires us to see a double-digit growth on the top line and a double-digit return on the bottom. So, I think those are very, very key. The other part is, obviously, we have investors who want to see shareholder return. We believe that we sit on surplus cash. We believe that, that should be returned to shareholders in one way or another. Whether that's through stock buybacks, whether that's through paying down debt, but increasing shareholder value is a key component. So, I think those are the measures that we're looking at in terms of growing the business.

Now when it comes to the world of Agentic AI and Agentic AI ERP, there's 2 things you need to remember. There's one, there's the fact that we create a path and we create a vision that customers can follow that doesn't require any future return to the vendor. That's very, very key. That is a big change from prior years where customers often thought of us as more of a temporary detour for some number of years and then a return to the vendor to get their next level of innovation. That's no longer the case.

And that's why you're watching us win bigger and bigger contracts because customers are liking what we put on the table as a path and a strategy that does not lead them back to the software vendor in a future year. And that is changing the game dramatically for us on the ground.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Van Rhee from Craig-Hallum.

Jeff Van Rhee: Some great underlying metrics here. It looks like some good momentum and good to see some ARR growth year-over-year. Seth, you were just touching on leverage, and I want to revisit that. Gross margins, this is on the lower end of anything I've seen in quite a while. And Michael, I think you referenced there were some pull forwards for some, I guess, what I would characterize as sounds like unexpected business opportunities. I think you -- S&M is up from 34% to 37% year-over-year, but revenue is generally flat.

And so, given that, I'm just trying to understand around the -- number one, what is this near-term opportunity that you're seeing that you've got to invest in right now, given that you're not raising the overall outlook? Maybe we could just start there and understand those.

Seth Ravin: Sure, Jeff. So, first, yes, we made a decision to pull forward some expense from future quarters. But we, of course, reiterated guidance being on target with what we provided in the Investor Day in December. And the things we're seeing, for example, we're investing in our U.S. federal team, brand-new team. We see a lot of opportunity in the federal government space with our new GSA contract, our partners that we're putting in place. And so, there's a lot going on in that part of the world. But there's also a significant amount of work for us to do with PE firms.

And we've got our first Vice President of PE sales on board because today, we service accounts that have over 20 different major PE firms represented, and we're going to go in and try and work with these firms to work on their bigger portfolios in general. So that, again, is another expansion area for us to build on. And so those investments were being made. We also, of course, are investing in our Agentic AI ERP solutions. And you saw the first time we have an R&D line item because we're making some investments at the product level. So those are also taking place. We also expanded our sales team. We're over 80 sellers now.

And so, we've moved our numbers back up from the mid-70s when we last had our last call for end of year. And so, we're continuing to expand and invest in sales and marketing as well. So, you saw temporarily the expenses went up as a percent of revenue, but we expect those will normalize throughout the year.

Jeff Van Rhee: And so then just to follow on to that, given all of those incremental revenue opportunities and in light of the revenue outperformance in the quarter relative to the guide, you didn't flow it through to the annual guide. So just help me understand what was in play there.

Seth Ravin: Well, I think we want to just take it very carefully. As you know, we didn't grow for a while there, and we're back and feeling very positive and very confident in our growth for the year and hence, the mid-single-digit growth targets that we set out there. But we want to just get another quarter under the belt and think about that before we talk about any kind of raise in the guidance.

Jeff Van Rhee: Okay. And then maybe just last, Seth, on customer retention. I know it's a focus and the Agentic UX and some other things probably have some opportunities to help there. But how should we think about churn over the next several quarters? This retention number has been at 88% here for at least a few quarters. Just any big churn events coming up here? And how do you think about retention next several quarters?

Seth Ravin: Well, the 88%, remember, is a TTM, rearview view of the total number. We feel very good. And as I noted in the prepared remarks, we beat our internal numbers on the retention number. It's just going to take a while to show up in the TTM number. I think when you look at the RPO, some of those are even related to renewals. So, we're seeing good, strong renewals out of the first quarter and feeling good about where we're looking to the year. Our goal is, of course, to see that TTM return to over a 90% number.

And we feel that we should start to see it show up in the metrics starting in the next quarter or so.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Alex Fuhrman from Lucid Capital Markets.

Alex Fuhrman: Congratulations on the return to growth here in Q1. It looks like here in the first quarter, you added about 30 active clients relative to where you ended 2025. The last 3 years, give or take, Q1 has been about flat in terms of customer acquisition. Is this just more of the same what we've been kind of talking about, increased demand for your AI solutions? Or are we maybe starting to see more of a year-round sales and adoption process as your clients are starting to implement more AI?

Seth Ravin: Sure. And thanks. We absolutely are seeing improvements in everything from the number of leads coming in to lead conversion to opportunity, opportunity to closes. So higher quality pipeline, higher quality execution, but the demand environment is absolutely growing as well. There is no doubt that the world of AI has changed the dynamics from a technological standpoint. You're also watching, as Rimini Street had predicted many years ago, the breakup of these big ERP monolithic systems into smaller pieces, we call it composable ERP, those pieces are breaking down further.

And what this means is that businesses and government organizations are now able to buy pieces, a la carte, let's say, versus having to buy them all in one big package. And we're well positioned, maybe the best position to help customers through all these technological transitions, including the thoughtful implementation of AI where it's appropriate. And because our #1 objective is driving down the total cost of operations and improving profitability or improving share return for government organizations, we think we are well-positioned to help customers for the long term, and we're talking 5, 10, 15, 20 years through this next phase of transition.

So, I think all of that coming together is what we're watching it showing up in the numbers.

Alex Fuhrman: Okay. That's really helpful. Thanks for all that color. And then I see you have a new line item here, research and development. It sounds like that's going to be more of a focus for the company going forward. How much should we expect to see there -- going forward there this year and in the future?

Michael Perica: Well, I think this -- I'm sorry. No, go ahead.

Seth Ravin: I was just going to say that we expect to continue to make investments in this space because we've been a services company. We've always had products, but the opportunity for us to develop more in the product and the licensing arena for subscription licenses has increased. And so, we're going to make those investments. But keep in mind, we're staying within our guidance limits. We're not talking about changing guidance even with the R&D line item. And I'm sorry, Michael, you want to add there?

Michael Perica: Yes. I just want to augment the point that Seth made, Alex, at the end that this was incorporated overall in our guidance. We do expect it to creep up throughout the year and can exit the year about 1% or so. That's how we're looking at it to augment these key technological investments, both with what we have existing and these new offerings that we're talking about.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Brian Kinstlinger from Alliance Global Partners.

Brian Kinstlinger: I just wanted to confirm that today, the revenue from the Agentic AI solution is quite modest, but that we'll begin to see that contribution pick up maybe in the second half of the year into next year? And then my second part of my question is, will there eventually be a report or some kind of metric that helps investors frame how much revenue is coming from that new solution?

Seth Ravin: Sure, Brian. Of course, it's not what we call a material amount yet from the Agentic AI ERP solutions themselves. But 2 ways to think about this, there is the actual revenue that's accretive that comes from solutions and sales and licensing and subscriptions in the Agentic bucket. That's a new set of products and services. There's a second more important one, which is already at work here.

And that is the fact that we have created a vision and we have a path and we have a solution going forward for customers that leads them away from having to do vendor upgrades and migrations in the future and allows them to drive their existing systems with modernization on that platform, that alone is what's driving, we believe, underneath a lot of the extra demand we're seeing because that is creating new demand that we did not have before, and it's bringing customers back to the table who have now come back to us to join Rimini Street who before had turned us down, proposals that they didn't move forward with.

We're now able to show them a path forward with an Agentic capability that says, okay, we'll go ahead and move forward at this time. So don't underestimate the very fact that we have this path and this vision and technology, that alone is driving increased sales.

Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Seth Ravin, CEO. Please continue.

Seth Ravin: Great. Well, thank you very much, and thanks, everyone, for joining us, and we will see you on the next earnings call. Have a great day.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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