PROV Q4 2025 Earnings Transcript

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DATE

Tuesday, July 29, 2025 at 12 p.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

• President & Chief Executive Officer — Donavon P. Ternes

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TAKEAWAYS

• Loan Originations -- $29.4 million originated, up 5% sequentially from $27.9 million in the prior quarter.
• Loan Payoffs and Principal Payments -- $42 million in payoffs, an 83% increase from $23 million in the March quarter.
• Loans Held for Investment -- Decreased by $13.2 million, mainly driven by declines in multifamily, commercial real estate, and commercial business loans, partly offset by a small rise in single-family loans.
• Nonperforming Assets -- $1.4 million, unchanged from March 31, 2025, and no loans in early-stage delinquency as of June 30, 2025.
• CRE (Commercial Real Estate) Office Exposure -- $39.5 million, or 3.8% of loans held for investment, with 10 CRE loans totaling $5.1 million maturing in fiscal 2026.
• Credit Losses -- $164,000 recovery recorded, driven by lower balances, improved historical loss factors, and fewer classified assets.
• Allowance for Credit Losses -- 62 basis points to gross loans held for investment, unchanged from the prior quarter.
• Net Interest Margin -- Fell to 2.94%, down 8 basis points from 3.02% sequentially due to lower yields on interest-earning assets while liability costs remained flat.
• Average Cost of Deposits and Borrowings -- Deposits rose to 1.33% (up 7 basis points QOQ); borrowings increased to 4.58% (up 6 basis points QOQ).
• Weighted Average Rate on New Loans -- 6.69% during the quarter, higher than the 5.16% average for the existing loan portfolio at quarter-end.
• Repricing Loans -- $117 million set to reprice in September to 7.23% (up 15 basis points), and $98 million in December to 6.88% (up 15 basis points QOQ).
• Wholesale Funding Maturities -- $71 million maturing in September at 4.43%, and $105 million in December at 4.61%, with management anticipating lower replacement rates.
• Operating Expenses -- $7.6 million, down from $7.9 million in the prior quarter; June quarter operating expenses now reflect a normalized run rate.
• Capital Management -- 76,000 shares repurchased this quarter and $3.8 million in dividends distributed; total capital returns represent 129% of fiscal 2025 net income.
• FTE Count -- 163 positions at June 30, 2025, compared to 160 one year ago.

SUMMARY

Provident Financial Holdings (NASDAQ:PROV) signaled confidence in portfolio stability despite increased loan payoffs, maintaining credit quality with nonperforming assets unchanged and no new early delinquencies reported. Management said, "Our short-term strategy for balance sheet management is more growth-oriented than last fiscal year," indicating a renewed emphasis on expanding the loan portfolio. The call highlighted the expectation of margin improvements, with significant repricing of both asset and liability portfolios in the upcoming quarters. Management reiterated commitment to returning capital, with both dividends and repurchases exceeding net income for the fiscal year, and clarified that expense levels now represent a sustainable baseline. Executives noted operating leverage may further improve as loan growth builds scale, and shifts in funding mix could lower cost of funds, enhancing future profitability and capital flexibility.

• President & Chief Executive Officer Ternes stated, "The composition of total interest-earning assets improved with a higher percentage of loans receivable and interest-earning deposits to total interest-earning assets and a lower percentage of investment securities."
• Strategic adjustments to underwriting in certain segments are intended to stimulate adjustable-rate single-family mortgage activity, with origination volume pipelines trending at the mid to high end of recent quarterly levels.
• Company indicated it is willing to flex portfolio mix between single-family and multifamily to optimize originations as market conditions shift.
• Expense seasonality is concentrated in the March quarter due to employer tax dynamics, with merit increases factored into $7.6 million–$7.8 million quarterly run-rate guidance for the coming year.
• Loan-to-deposit ratio remains above peer norms, but management expressed comfort with elevated levels citing the stability of its residential mortgage-dominated portfolio cash flows.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

• CRE: Commercial Real Estate; loans secured by income-generating properties such as office buildings, retail centers, and multifamily apartments.
• FTE: Full-Time Equivalent; a metric for counting total staff based on hours worked, regardless of part-time or full-time status.

Full Conference Call Transcript

To begin with, thank you for participating in our call. I hope that each of you has had an opportunity to review our earnings release that we distributed yesterday, which describes our fourth quarter and fiscal 2025 results. In the most recent quarter, we originated $29.4 million of loans held for investment, a 5% increase from $27.9 million that were originated in the prior sequential quarter. During the most recent quarter, we also had $42 million of loan principal payments and payoffs, which is an increase of 83% from $23 million in the March 2025 quarter.

Real estate investors have been more cautious as a result of the higher mortgage rates and uncertainties in the market, although we continue to see moderate activity in loans held for investment. However, we are seeing consumer demand for single-family adjustable rate mortgage products stabilize, and we will continue to make prudent adjustments to our underwriting requirements within certain loan segments to encourage higher loan origination volume.

Additionally, our single-family and multifamily loan pipelines are higher in comparison to last quarter, suggesting our loan origination volume in the September 2025 quarter will be similar to or higher than when compared to the June 2025 quarter and around the middle to higher end of the range of recent quarters, which has been $19 million and $36 million. For the 3 months ended June 30, 2025, loans held for investment decreased by approximately $13.2 million, with the decrease mostly coming from multifamily, commercial real estate and commercial business loans, partly offset by a small increase in single-family loans.

Current credit quality continues to hold up very well, and you will note that nonperforming assets were $1.4 million at June 30, 2025, unchanged from March 31, 2025. Additionally, there were no loans in the early stages of delinquency at June 30, 2025. We continue to monitor commercial real estate loans, particularly loans secured by office buildings, but are confident that based on the underwriting characteristics of our borrowers and collateral that these loans will continue to perform well. We have outlined these characteristics on Slide 13 of our quarterly investor presentation, which shows that our exposure to loans secured by various types of office buildings is $39.5 million or 3.8% of loans held for investment.

You should also note that we have just 10 CRE loans that totaled $5.1 million, maturing in fiscal 2026. We recorded a $164,000 recovery of credit losses in the June 2025 quarter. The recovery recorded in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 was primarily attributable to a decline in the balance of loans held for investment, a decline in historical loss factors and lower classified assets, partly offset by a slightly longer average life of the loan portfolio. The outstanding balance of loans held for investment at June 30, 2025 decreased by $13.2 million from March 31, 2025.

The allowance for credit losses to gross loans held for investment was 62 basis points at June 30, 2025, unchanged from March 31, 2025. Our net interest margin decreased 8 basis points to 2.94% for the quarter ended June 30, 2025 compared to the 3.02% for the sequential quarter ended March 31, 2025, the net result of a 6 basis point decline in the average yield on total interest-earning assets and no change in the cost of total interest-bearing liabilities.

Our average cost of deposits increased to 1.33%, up 7 basis points for the quarter ended June 30, 2025, while our cost of borrowing increased 6 basis points to 4.58% in the June 2025 quarter compared to the March 2025 quarter. The net interest margin was negatively impacted by approximately 4 basis points as a result of higher net deferred loan costs associated with loan payoffs in the June 2025 quarter compared to the net average -- net deferred loan cost amortization of the previous 5 quarters in contrast to a 2 basis point positive impact in the March 2025 quarter.

Also, the March 2025 quarter had a benefit of 3 basis points from approximately $94,000 of loan interest recovery that was not replicated this quarter as the result of nonperforming loan payoffs and loan classification upgrade. New loan production is being originated at higher mortgage interest rates than the weighted average of the existing portfolio. The weighted average rate of loans originated in the June 2025 quarter was 6.69% compared to the weighted average rate of 5.16% for our loans held for investment as of June 30, 2025. In addition, our adjustable rate loans are repricing at interest rates that are higher than their current interest rates.

For example, we have approximately $117 million of loans repricing in the September 2025 quarter to an interest rate currently forecast to be 15 basis points higher to a weighted average interest rate of 7.23% from 7.08%. Additionally, we have approximately $98 million of loans repricing in the December 2025 quarter to an interest rate currently forecast to be 15 basis points higher, similar to the September quarter, to a weighted average interest rate of 6.88% from 6.73%. I would point out that there is an opportunity to reprice the touring wholesale funding downward as a result of current market conditions, where interest rates have moved lower across all terms.

Excluding overnight borrowing, we have approximately $71 million of Federal Home Loan Bank advances, brokered certificates of deposit and government certificates of deposit, maturing in the September 2025 quarter at a weighted average interest rate of 4.43%. Additionally, we have approximately $105 million of Federal Home Loan Bank advances, brokered certificates of deposit and government certificates of deposit, maturing in the December 2025 quarter at a weighted average interest rate of 4.61%. Given current market conditions, we would expect to reprice these maturities to a lower weighted average cost of funds. All of this suggests, there is an opportunity for expansion of the net interest margin in the September 2025 quarter.

We continue to look for operating efficiencies throughout the company to lower operating expenses. Our FTE count on June 30, 2025 was 163 compared to 160 1 year ago. You will note that operating expenses were $7.6 million in the June 2025 quarter, a decrease from $7.9 million in the March 2025 quarter. Operating expenses for the June 2025 quarter represented a more normalized run rate. In the March 2025 quarter, operating expenses included $239,000 of litigation settlement expenses and $27,000 of executive search firm costs. For fiscal 2026, we expect a run rate of approximately $7.6 million to $7.8 million per quarter. Our short-term strategy for balance sheet management is more growth-oriented than last fiscal year.

We believe that disciplined growth of the loan portfolio remains the best course of action at this time as we recognize that the Federal Open Market Committee has recalibrated the looser monetary policy and the inverted yield curve has begun to reverse back to an upwardly sloping curve. We were successful in the execution of the strategy in the June 2025 quarter with loan origination volume at the higher end of the quarterly range. However, loan prepayments were higher than the prior sequential quarter, offsetting the higher loan production volume.

The composition of total interest-earning assets improved with a higher percentage of loans receivable and interest-earning deposits to total interest-earning assets and a lower percentage of investment securities to total interest-earning assets. Additionally, the composition of total interest-bearing liabilities improved with an increase in the average balance of deposits and a decrease in the average balance of borrowings. We exceed well-capitalized capital ratios by a significant margin, allowing us to execute on our business plan and capital management goals without complications. We believe that maintaining our cash dividend is very important.

We also recognize that prudent capital returns to shareholders through stock buyback programs is a responsible capital management tool, and we repurchased approximately 76,000 shares of common stock in the June 2025 quarter. For the fiscal year, we distributed approximately $3.8 million of cash dividends to shareholders and repurchased approximately $4.3 million worth of common stock. Accordingly, our capital management activities have resulted in a 129% distribution of fiscal 2025 net income. We encourage everyone to review our June 30 investor presentation posted on our website. You will find that we included slides regarding financial metrics, asset quality and capital management, which we believe will provide additional insight on our solid financial foundation supporting the future growth of the company.

We will now entertain any questions that you may have regarding our financial results. Thank you. Tiffany, please proceed.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Frank Williams with Piper Sandler.

Frank Daniel Williams: Thank you, guys, for the 2026 outlook and the outlook in the back half of the year as well. I just had one question. Has the recent uptick in prepayments shifted your view on portfolio mix or originations? Basically, are you guys leaning more into certain segments to offset the runoff?

Donavon P. Ternes: Yes. Our mix is primarily what we would prefer, I suppose, is 50% single-family, 50% multifamily. But to the extent we're not meeting our goals with either of those buckets, we will increase the mix of one type over the other. As it occurs, single-family has been outperforming on the volume perspective over the last few quarters. Although this quarter, we did realize more volume in multifamily and commercial real estate than the recent prior quarters. Nonetheless, we're not married to a straight mix in the portfolio as long as we're generating the volume out of those two types.

Frank Daniel Williams: Awesome. Awesome. And just one other, I guess, on expenses, so that's very helpful, the outlook. But is there an efficiency ratio that you guys target? I know earlier in like 2025-ish, you guys bounced under that 70% efficiency -- or 2024 rather, you bounced under that 70% efficiency. Is that something that you guys think you'll be able to get back to?

Donavon P. Ternes: Well, it depends upon portfolio growth, Frank. What I would describe is that our current operating expense baseline will be able to fund future growth of the loan portfolio into the balance sheet. And ultimately, as we grow the loan portfolio and grow total interest- earning assets and ultimately grow total assets, we will be able to reduce that efficiency ratio over time into a better ratio for a smaller company such as ours from where we currently are.

Operator: Your next question comes from Tim Coffey with Janney.

Timothy Norton Coffey: Donavon, the increased payoffs this quarter a function of some increased competition, is it primarily on price that's the friction? Or is it also a structure?

Donavon P. Ternes: I think it's probably both, Tim. If you were to look at our pricing, we're priced relatively competitively in both single-family and multifamily. But our underwriting characteristics are perhaps a little bit tighter than some of the others in the market, and that speaks to the credit quality we've had over time. And so I would argue, it is probably more structured than it is price. Although in both single- family and multifamily, we have been loosening underwriting restrictions. And really, with single-family and multifamily, we're probably back to underwriting to pre-COVID criteria when we tightened up during COVID.

But in commercial real estate other than multifamily, we're still a little bit tighter, particularly in the office segment or some of the other -- out-of-favor other segments..

Timothy Norton Coffey: Great. Great. That's helpful. And then just double checking my notes here on the loans that are repricing in the next 2 quarters, what was the dollar value of that for the September quarter?

Donavon P. Ternes: So September, we have approximately $117 million, repricing upward by approximately 15 basis points.

Timothy Norton Coffey: Okay. And then for the December quarter, what -- that 15 basis point improvement was to what percentage?

Donavon P. Ternes: Approximately $98 million.

Timothy Norton Coffey: Okay. And what was it repricing to?

Donavon P. Ternes: 6.88%.

Timothy Norton Coffey: Okay. Perfect. That's what's looking forward. The expense outlook is helpful. Can you remind us what the seasonality is to that, given that you do operate on a fiscal year?

Donavon P. Ternes: Well, the March quarter of every year, you'll see higher operating expenses, primarily in the salary and benefits line because of employer taxes being paid until some of the higher wage earners max out, if you will, on some of those tax obligations. So the March quarter is really the one quarter out of the 3 -- or out of 4 that have a little bit of seasonality to it.

Timothy Norton Coffey: Okay. So no intermediate impact from salary adjustments?

Donavon P. Ternes: Well, yes, July 1, we obviously have increases to merit. And that's why we guided higher in that $7.6 million to $7.8 million range per quarter in the September and thereafter quarters in contrast to our prior guidance, which I think were $7.6 million to $7.7 million per quarter.

Timothy Norton Coffey: Okay. Okay. That's very helpful. And then just a question on the loan-deposit ratio. Obviously, it's elevated relative to peers. But as you detailed in your earnings release, you have ample liquidity. What is the range of the loan-to-deposit ratio that you feel comfortable with?

Donavon P. Ternes: Well, our business model, Tim, lends itself to a higher loan-to-deposit ratio. Since we're essentially mortgage lenders for the bulk of our -- the bulk of our loan portfolio, there are no drawdowns that come out of borrower requests on an ongoing basis such as a C&I portfolio. So there's no dry powder that the borrower can draw from with respect to our portfolio. So as we're forecasting out cash flows, it's a bit more stable for us than many. And as a result of that, we can run higher loan-to- deposit ratios, and we have historically done so. Recently, we brought that down probably about 5 basis points.

I think we were in the 120s, and now we're in the mid-1 teens. And we will continue to work that down as deposit liquidity improves, as deposit competition improves in our markets. Nonetheless, we are more comfortable with higher loan-to-deposit ratios.

Operator: That concludes our question-and-answer session. And I will now turn the call back over to Donavon Ternes for closing remarks.

Donavon P. Ternes: I appreciate everyone's participation today on the call. As always, you can follow up with us if you wish. We are always open to having individual conversations. And with that, I look forward to next quarter's call. Thank you.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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