PROV Q2 2025 Earnings Transcript

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DATE

Jan. 28, 2025 at 12 p.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

• President and Chief Executive Officer — Donavon Ternes
• Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer — Tam Nguyen

TAKEAWAYS

• Loan Originations -- $36.4 million of loans originated and held for investment, a sequential increase from $28.9 million.
• Loan Principal Payments and Payoffs -- $34.3 million in the quarter, up slightly from $34 million previously.
• Loans Held for Investment -- Increased by approximately $5 million sequentially, driven by single-family and commercial business loans, partly offset by declines in multifamily, commercial real estate, and construction loans.
• Net Interest Margin -- Rose to 2.91%, up from 2.84% in the previous sequential period.
• Provision for Credit Losses -- $586,000 recorded, attributed mainly to longer loan portfolio life and lower prepayment estimates, a slightly higher balance of nonperforming and classified loans, and a modest increase in loan balances.
• Nonperforming Assets -- Rose to $2.5 million from $2.1 million sequentially, with no early-stage delinquencies reported.
• Allowance for Credit Losses -- Increased 5 basis points to 66 basis points of gross loans held for investment, up from 61 basis points.
• Deposit Costs -- Average cost of deposits declined to 123 basis points, a decrease of 4 basis points sequentially.
• Borrowing Costs -- Decreased by 21 basis points compared to the prior quarter.
• Office Building Loan Exposure -- $40.4 million, or 3.8% of loans held for investment, with six commercial real estate loans totaling $3.2 million maturing during calendar 2025.
• Interest Rate Repricing -- $124.3 million in loans repricing to 7.51% (down 5 basis points) in March; $96.3 million repricing to 7.35% (up 57 basis points) in June.
• Wholesale Funding -- $85.5 million in Federal Home Loan Bank advances and brokered CDs to mature in March; expected to reprice below the current weighted average interest rate of 4.50%.
• Operating Expenses -- $7.8 million for the period, above the expected $7.5 million run rate due to $100,000 in executive search costs, and $167,000 in retirement plan expenses, both fully attributed as non-recurring.
• Capital Management -- Board approved a new stock repurchase plan; about 64,000 shares repurchased in the quarter, $1.9 million in dividends paid, and $2.4 million in repurchases fiscal year-to-date, resulting in 154% of net income returned to shareholders.
• Dividend and Buyback Emphasis -- "We believe that maintaining our cash dividend is very important. We also recognize that prudent capital returns to shareholders through stock buyback program [are a] responsible capital management tool."
• Loan Pipeline Outlook -- Loan origination activity expected to remain at the high end of the $19 million to $36 million quarterly range in the coming period.
• FTE Count -- Increased to 162 from 160 year over year.
• Fire Impact -- $23.7 million (2.2% of loan portfolio) located in fire-affected ZIP codes, with two homes totaling $658,000 in loans facing minor damage and believed to be fully insured.

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RISKS

• CEO Ternes said, "presentation. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from those discussed today."
• Nonperforming assets increased to $2.5 million from $2.1 million sequentially, signaling a modest deterioration in asset quality.
• Exposure to fire-impacted areas encompasses $23.7 million, or 2.2% of the loan portfolio, with ongoing monitoring required.

SUMMARY

Provident Financial Holdings (NASDAQ:PROV) reported higher sequential loan origination volumes and an expansion in net interest margin, underpinned by rising loan and declining funding costs. A new stock repurchase plan was authorized, with aggregate capital returns exceeding net income year-to-date. Management described a disciplined and modestly growth-oriented strategy as the yield curve transitions and highlighted expectations for continued, though slower, net interest margin improvement.

• CEO Ternes stated, "We would anticipate that margin will expand in future quarters as well," but noted, "there's not as much of a tailwind as it relates to the loan portfolio and what is going on with repricing there."
• Loan pipelines for both single-family and multifamily segments are projected to sustain current origination levels into the next quarter.
• $85.5 million in wholesale funding maturities present further opportunities for cost reduction as they are expected to reprice at lower rates in the near term.
• Six commercial real estate loans maturing in 2025 constitute a manageable portion of the office building loan exposure, amid continued credit monitoring efforts.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

• Net Interest Margin: The difference between interest income generated and interest paid out, expressed as a percentage of average earning assets, a key measure of a bank's profitability.
• FTE Count: Number of full-time equivalent employees actively working for the institution.
• CRE: Commercial Real Estate, loans or assets secured by income-producing property, often monitored for risk in bank portfolios.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Donavon Ternes: Thank you, Bella. Good morning. This is Donavon Ternes, President and CEO of Provident Financial Holdings. And on the call with me is Tam Nguyen, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I have a brief administrative item to address. Our presentation today discusses the company's business outlook and will include forward-looking statements. Those statements include descriptions of management's plans, objectives or goals for future operations, products or services, forecasts of financial or other performance measures and statements about the company's general outlook for economic and business conditions. We also may make forward-looking statements during the question-and-answer period following management's presentation.

These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from those discussed today. Information on the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from any forward-looking statement is available from the earnings release that was distributed earlier this morning, from the annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended June 30, 2024, and from the Form 10-Qs and other SEC filings that are filed subsequent to the Form 10-K. Forward-looking statements are effective only as of the date that they are made, and the company assumes no obligation to update this information. To begin with, thank you for participating in our call.

I hope that each of you has had an opportunity to review our earnings release distributed earlier this morning, which describes our second quarter fiscal 2025 results. As a Southern California bank, I wanted to take a moment during our call this morning to thank the firefighters and first responders fighting the fires in Los Angeles. Our thoughts are with those affected by the fires. We are actively monitoring the situation and have identified $23.7 million or 2.2% of our loans held for investment portfolio, located in ZIP codes within the fire evacuation and evacuation warning zones. We are aware of two homes with a combined loan balance of $658,000 with minor damage. We believe both homes are fully insured.

We will continue to monitor the fluid situation and will work with these borrowers during this challenging time. In the most recent quarter, we originated $36.4 million as loans held for investment, an increase from $28.9 million in the prior sequential quarter. During the most recent quarter, we also had $34.3 million of loan principal payments and payoffs, which is up slightly from $34 million in the September 2024 quarter. Currently, it seems that real estate investors have reduced their activity as a result of higher mortgage and other interest rates although we continue to see moderate activity in loans held for investment.

Additionally, we are seeing more consumer demand for single-family adjustable rate mortgage products as a result of higher fixed rate mortgage interest rates. We have loosened a few of our underwriting requirements within certain loan segments to encourage higher loan origination volume. Additionally, our single-family and multifamily loan pipelines are similar in comparison to last quarter, suggesting our loan originations in the March 2025 quarter will be similar to the December 2024 quarter and around the high end of the range of recent quarters, which has been between $19 million and $36 million.

For the three months ended December 31, 2024, loans held for investment increased by approximately $5 million when compared to the quarter ended September 30, 2024, with increases in the single-family and commercial business loans, partly offset by decreases in the multifamily commercial real estate and construction loans. Current credit quality continues to hold up very well, and you will note that nonperforming assets increased to just $2.5 million on December 31, 2024, which is up from $2.1 million on September 30, 2024. Additionally, there were no early-stage delinquencies at December 31, 2024.

We continue to monitor commercial real estate loans, particularly loans secured by office buildings, but are confident that based on our -- the underwriting characteristics of our borrowers and collateral that these loans will continue to perform well. We have outlined these characteristics on Slide 13 of our quarterly investor presentation which shows that our exposure to loans secured by various types of office buildings is approximately $40.4 million or 3.8% of loans held for investment. You should also note that we have just six CRE loans for $3.2 million maturing in calendar 2025. We recorded a $586,000 provision for credit losses in the December 2024 quarter.

The provision for credit losses recorded in the second quarter was primarily attributable to a longer estimated life of the loan portfolio, resulting from increased market interest rates and lower loan prepayment estimates, a slightly higher balance of nonperforming and classified loans and a small increase in the outstanding balance of loans held for investment. The allowance for credit losses to gross loans held for investment increased 5 basis points to 66 basis points at December 31, 2024 as compared to 61 basis points at September 30, 2024.

Our net interest margin increased to 2.91% for the quarter ended December 31, 2024 compared to 2.84% for the sequential quarter ended September 30, 2024 the net result of a 3 basis point increase in the average yield on total interest-earning assets and a 5 basis point decrease in the cost of total interest-bearing liabilities. Notably, our average cost of deposits declined to 123 basis points, down by four basis points for the quarter ended December 31, 2024 compared to no change in the prior sequential quarter. In addition, our cost of borrowing decreased by 21 basis points in the December 2024 quarter compared to the September 2024 quarter.

The net interest margin this quarter was negatively impacted by approximately 2 basis points as a result of higher net deferred loan costs associated with loan payoffs in the December 2024 quarter compared to the average net deferred loan cost amortization of the previous five quarters. New loan production is being originated at higher mortgage interest rates than the weighted average of the existing loan portfolio, but some of our adjustable rate loans may be repricing at interest rates that are lower than their current interest rates.

For example, we have approximately $124.3 million of loans repricing in the March 2025 quarter to an interest rate currently forecast to be 5 basis points lower to a weighted average interest rate of 7.51% from 7.56%. Conversely, we also have approximately $96.3 million of loans repricing in the June 2025 quarter to an interest rate currently forecast to be 57 basis points higher to a weighted average interest rate of 7.35% from 6.78%. I would point out that there is tremendous opportunity to reprice maturing wholesale funding downward as a result of current market conditions, where interest rates have moved lower across all terms.

Excluding overnight borrowings, we have approximately $85.5 million of Federal Home Loan Bank advances and brokered certificates of deposits maturing in the March 2025 quarter at a weighted average interest rate of 4.50%. Given market conditions, we would expect to reprice these maturities to a lower weighted average cost of funds. All of this suggests a continued expansion of the net interest margin in the March 2025 quarter, but at a slower pace than that experienced in the current quarter. We continue to look for operating efficiencies throughout the company to lower operating expenses. Our FTE count at December 31, 2024, increased to 162 compared to 160 on the same date last year.

You will note that operating expenses were $7.8 million in the December 2025 quarter, an increase from the $7.5 million in the September 2024 quarter. The increase over the expected run rate of $7.5 million was due to non-recurring or intermittent expenses particularly the $100,000 of executive search agency costs and $167,000 of retirement plan benefit expenses that are not anticipated in future periods. As a result, for fiscal 2025, we continue to expect a run rate of approximately $7.5 million per quarter. Our short-term strategy for balance sheet management is somewhat more growth oriented than last fiscal year.

We believe that disciplined growth of the loan portfolio is the best course of action at this time as we recognize that the Federal Open Market Committee has recalibrated the looser monetary policy and the inverted yield curve has begun to reverse back to an upwardly sloping yield curve. We were partly successful in the execution of this strategy this quarter with loan origination volume at the high end of the quarterly range and loan prepayment similar to the prior sequential quarter. The composition of total interest-earning assets improved with a higher percentage of loans receivable to total interest-earning assets and a lower percentage of interest of investment securities to total interest-earning assets.

Although the composition of total interest-bearing liabilities deteriorated with a decrease in the average balance of deposits and an increase in the average balance of borrowings. We exceed well-capitalized capital ratios by a significant margin, allowing us to execute on our business plan and capital management goals without complications. We believe that maintaining our cash dividend is very important. We also recognize that prudent capital returns to shareholders through stock buyback program, responsible capital management tool and we repurchased approximately 64,000 shares of common stock in the December 2024 quarter. For the fiscal year-to-date, we have distributed approximately $1.9 million of cash dividends to shareholders and repurchased approximately $2.4 million worth of common stock through our stock repurchase plan.

Accordingly, our capital management activities have resulted in a 154% distribution of fiscal 2025 net income to date. You should also note that the Board of Directors approved a new stock repurchase plan last week. We encourage everyone to review our December 31st investor presentation posted on our website. You will find that we included slides regarding financial metrics, asset quality and capital management, which we believe will give you additional insight on our solid financial foundation, supporting the future growth of the company. Bella, we will now entertain any questions that participants may have regarding our financial results.

Operator: [Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from the line of Andrew Liesch of Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Andrew Liesch: Thanks. Good morning.

Donavon Ternes: Good morning.

Andrew Liesch: Donavon, a question on the loan growth commentary here. It seems like production is going to be again towards the higher end. I guess if you look out, I mean, is this going to be like this maybe 50 to 60 basis points a quarter? How do you think -- or when do you think growth can accelerate from this path? What needs to happen for that to occur?

Donavon Ternes: Well, ultimately, mortgage interest rates need to decline from current levels to see large acceleration with respect to growth in the loan portfolio. Although the flip side of that, if we do see lower mortgage interest rates, we would also expect more loan prepayments with respect to refinance activity. So I think this quarter, it was approximately a 1.9% annual growth rate with respect to the loan portfolio. We would like to see that percentage grow as we look down the second half of our fiscal year and as we look toward our new fiscal year beginning July 1st. Certainly, we think there's more opportunity in calendar 2025 with respect to growth than what we've seen in the past.

And part of that is as well a flattening and upwardly sloping yield curve where it makes more sense for us to be more aggressive with respect to what it is we are doing in populating loan growth, then when the curve was inverted, and it didn't make as much sense for us to be populating loan growth.

Andrew Liesch: Got it. That makes sense. And then on the margin, now that in the yield curve, it seems like there's still quite a bit of opportunities on the funding side, and you have some fixed rate assets that might be adjusting higher or reaching their adjust period. Should that trend continue? I mean maybe we don't see 7 basis points of expansion, but should the margin be in an uptrend here from now on, unless we see something different from that?

Donavon Ternes: Yes. So I think we've reached that inflection point. In the September quarter, we expanded margin by 10 basis points, in the December quarter, we expanded margin by 7 basis points. We would anticipate that margin will expand in future quarters as well. The interesting component that is a little bit different today than it was in the September and the December quarters, those loans that we are expecting to reprice in the March quarter are being forecast to reprice downward by 5 basis points. In the December and the September quarters, the loans that we're repricing were actually repricing up from their current interest rates.

So that's a flat or a little bit of a headwind with respect to margin. But on the flip side of that, our interest-bearing liabilities as we described, $85.5 million of wholesale funding should be repricing downward in the March quarter, it's currently -- those liabilities are currently priced at 4.5%, and we think we can reprice those liabilities into the high 3s or low 4s. So there's still a tailwind with respect to our funding costs as it relates to net interest margin, but there's not as much of a tailwind as it relates to the loan portfolio and what is going on with repricing there.

Although, again, as we described, the June quarter, we actually see and can forecast the loan portfolio adjusting upward. So perhaps it swings to a tailwind again in the June quarter.

Andrew Liesch: Got it. Yep. Make sense. All right. Thanks for taking the question. I'll step back.

Operator: [Operator Instructions]. I will now turn the call back over to Donavon Ternes for closing remarks.

Donavon Ternes: Well, I'd like to thank everybody for joining our call this quarter. And I look forward to our call next quarter. Thank you very much.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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