LPL Financial (LPLA) Q4 2025 Earnings Transcript

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Date

Jan. 29, 2026 at 5 p.m. ET

Call participants

• Managing Director — Richard Steinmeier
• Chief Financial Officer — Matthew Audette

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Takeaways

• Total assets -- $2.4 trillion, a record high, driven by organic growth and higher equity markets.
• Organic net new assets -- $23 billion for the quarter, representing a 4% annualized growth rate.
• Full-year organic net new assets -- $147 billion, reflecting an 8% growth rate.
• Adjusted earnings per share (EPS) -- $5.23 for the quarter, up 23% from the prior year, setting a new record.
• Adjusted pretax margin -- Approximately 36% for the quarter, indicating continued operating discipline.
• Gross profit -- $1.542 billion, an increase of $62 million sequentially from the previous quarter.
• Commission advisory fees net of payout -- $453 million, up $27 million from fiscal Q3 2025.
• Payout rate -- 88% for the quarter, up 53 basis points from fiscal Q3 2025 due to a production bonus build.
• Client cash revenue -- $456 million, up $14 million from fiscal Q3 2025, as sequential growth in balances offset lower short-term interest rates.
• Client cash balances -- $61 billion at quarter-end, increasing $5 billion sequentially.
• Insured cash account (ICA) portfolio mix -- Fixed rate balances at roughly 55%, within the target range of 50%-75%.
• ICA yield -- 341 basis points in fiscal Q4 2025, down 10 basis points sequentially due to rate cuts in October and December.
• Service and fee revenue -- $181 million in fiscal Q4 2025, up $6 million from fiscal Q3 2025, driven by the full quarter impact from Commonwealth and lower conference revenue in IRA.
• Transaction revenue -- $75 million, up $8 million sequentially, attributed to increased trading volumes.
• Asset retention rate -- 97% for fiscal Q4 2025 and for the last twelve months.
• Recruited assets -- $14 billion in fiscal Q4 2025, totaling $104 billion for the full year.
• Core general and administrative expenses (G&A) -- $536 million in fiscal Q4 2025; full-year core G&A $1.852 billion, below the low end of the outlook range.
• TA loan amortization -- $133 million in fiscal Q4 2025, up $28 million sequentially due to Commonwealth-related transition assistance and ongoing recruiting.
• Promotional expense -- $76 million in fiscal Q4 2025, down $21 million sequentially, mainly from lower conference spend.
• Depreciation and amortization -- $105 million in fiscal Q4 2025, up $5 million sequentially.
• Interest expense -- $106 million in fiscal Q4 2025, roughly flat sequentially as higher revolver usage was offset by lower short-term rates.
• Corporate cash -- $470 million at period end, down $99 million from fiscal Q3 2025.
• Leverage ratio -- 1.95x at quarter-end, near the midpoint of the company’s target range.
• Commonwealth acquisition -- Run-rate EBITDA contribution estimated at approximately $425 million once fully integrated; onboarding of advisers remains on track for fiscal Q4 2026.
• Commonwealth asset retention -- Current signed adviser agreements represent the low 80% range of assets, with retention target reaffirmed at 90%.
• Core G&A outlook for 2026 -- Prior to Commonwealth, expected growth of 4.5%-7% ($1.775 billion-$1.82 billion); including Commonwealth, total guidance is $2.155 billion-$2.21 billion.
• Share repurchases -- Buybacks remain paused post-Commonwealth announcement; potential for resumption may be reconsidered as leverage is ahead of schedule and onboarding progresses.
• Wirehouse and regional employee adviser channel capture -- Capture rate increased from 9% to over 11% of advisers in motion.
• Liquidity and succession solution -- $50 million deployed in the quarter, with transactions yielding “100% recurring, non-cash sweep earnings” and multiples in the 6%-8% range.
• Employee engagement -- Highest scores in nearly a decade, attributed to advances in employee experience initiatives.

Summary

LPL Financial Holdings (NASDAQ:LPLA) reported multiple quarterly and annual records, including total assets, adjusted EPS, and gross profit, while executing major strategic acquisitions and integrations. Management stated that adviser retention and onboarding for the recently acquired Commonwealth Financial Network are progressing in the low 80% range of assets signed, with the onboarding timeline and 90% retention target reaffirmed. Leadership highlighted pipeline strength, noting near-record recruiting levels, and indicated that expected pull-through would gradually increase as recruiter focus shifts back from integration to core organic growth initiatives.

• The company emphasized that nearly all major acquisition integrations, including Atria Wealth Solutions and Commonwealth, are on track and contributing to advisory platform enhancements.
• Expense efficiency initiatives resulted in core G&A growth of 4% in fiscal 2025, notably below guidance, with fiscal 2026 targeted growth range of 4.5%-7% before Commonwealth impact.
• Cash management trends, including stable client cash balances and average balances per account around $5,000, were cited as supporting yield stability even with rate changes.
• Service and fee revenue is projected to rise by approximately $25 million sequentially in fiscal Q1 2026 due to fee changes, despite a forecasted approximately $10 million seasonal decline in conference income.
• Share repurchase activity remains halted, but management signaled the opportunity to resume “maybe a quarter earlier” than previously planned, should deleveraging continue on schedule.
• Management noted that the company’s increased share of “wirehouse and regional employee advisers” resulted from expanded affiliation models and closing capability gaps in high-net-worth services.

Industry glossary

• ICA (Insured cash account): A sweep program where client cash balances are placed into deposit accounts at banks to provide FDIC insurance and typically generate a yield for the firm.
• TA (Transition assistance) loan amortization: The process by which payments related to financial incentives offered to recruit advisers or acquire practices are accounted for over a set period.
• Linsco: The company’s W-2 supported employee adviser affiliation channel, designed for advisers transitioning from a wirehouse or needing a structured support model.
• Liquidity and succession (L&S) solution: Program offering buyouts, financing, and succession planning to facilitate adviser transitions and practice continuity.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Richard Steinmeier: And thank you to everyone for joining our call. It's a pleasure to speak with you again. Before touching on our fourth quarter results, it was a milestone year for LPL Financial Holdings Inc. as we significantly advanced our key strategic priorities. To reflect on a few of our key accomplishments, we delivered industry-leading organic asset growth of 8%, including the onboarding of the retail wealth management businesses of WinTrust Financial and First Horizon, which collectively support over 200 financial advisers managing roughly $34 billion in client assets. We completed the onboarding and integration of Atria Wealth Solutions, converting seven distinct broker-dealers to the LTL platform.

We signed and closed our acquisition of Commonwealth Financial Network, marking the largest deal in LTL history, welcoming their home office staff and approximately 3,000 advisers to the LPL family. We launched a national marketing campaign to elevate our brand with advisers and their clients. We significantly advanced our employee experience, resulting in our highest employee engagement scores in nearly a decade. We made meaningful progress driving improved operating leverage. And finally, our collective efforts resulted in record adjusted earnings per share of $20.09. Okay. Now let's turn to our Q4 results. In the quarter, total assets increased to a record $2.4 trillion driven by organic growth and higher equity markets.

We attracted organic net new assets of $23 billion, representing a 4% annualized growth. Our fourth quarter business results led to strong financial performance, with record adjusted EPS of $5.23, an increase of 23% from a year ago. Next, let's turn to our strategic plan and progress across our organic and inorganic initiatives. Our vision is clear. We aspire to be the best firm in wealth management. To do that, we are focused on three key priorities. One, maintaining the client-centricity the firm was built on. Two, empowering our employees to deliver exceptionally for our advisers and their clients. And three, delivering improved operating leverage.

Effectively executing on these focus areas will help us sustain our industry-leading growth while advancing the efficiency and effectiveness of our model. With that as context, let's review a few highlights of our business growth. In Q4, recruited assets were $14 billion, bringing our total for the year to $104 billion. Throughout the quarter, our pipelines continued to build and are near record levels. Recognizing that many opportunities are in the early and mid-stages, we expect the pull-through to improve over the course of the year as we reignite our industry-leading growth engine. In our traditional markets, we added approximately $13 billion in assets during Q4, as we maintained our industry-leading capture rates of advisers in motion.

With respect to our expanded affiliation models, strategic wealth, independent employee, and our enhanced RIA offering, we delivered another solid quarter recruiting roughly $1 billion. Turning to overall asset retention, it was 97% for Q4, and over the last twelve months. This is a testament to the continued efforts to enhance the adviser experience through the delivery of new capabilities and technology and the evolution of our service and operations. As for Commonwealth, we are thrilled to be working closely with our new colleagues to develop the target operating model and positioning for the Commonwealth value proposition within our suite of offerings. The work is well underway, and we remain on track to onboard the Commonwealth advisers in Q4.

In parallel, in partnership with our Commonwealth colleagues, we remain focused on helping their advisers understand the benefits of staying with Commonwealth, ensuring each adviser has everything needed to complete their diligence and make an informed decision. We continue to expect roughly 90% retention of client assets. As we get closer to onboarding later this year, our estimate will continue to firm up. In closing, the fourth quarter was a capstone on an outstanding year. This is a result of the dedication of our team and their unwavering commitment to our advisers. So I want to thank everyone at LPL for their efforts.

As we look ahead, we remain well-positioned to serve as a critical partner to our advisers and institutions to continue delivering industry-leading organic growth and to maximize long-term value for shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Matt.

Matthew Audette: Thanks, Rich. And I'm glad to speak with everyone on today's call. As we reflect on 2025, it's been a year of meaningful progress for LPL as we continue to execute against some of our key strategic priorities, which include advancing our efforts to drive improved operating through a combination of increased efficiency in our business and refinements to pricing to ensure it is aligned with the value we deliver, and driving further improvements to the advisory by removing friction through investments in automation across our service, operations, and supervision. As we look ahead, we're encouraged by the opportunities in front of us to better serve our advisers and continue strengthening our industry-leading value proposition.

Now turning to a few highlights from our Q4 business results. Total advisory and brokerage assets were $2.4 trillion, up 2% from Q3 as continued organic growth was complemented by higher equity. Total organic net new assets were $23 billion and approximately 4% annualized growth rate. The full year, total organic net new assets were $147 billion or an approximately 8% growth rate. As for our Q4 financial results, the combination of organic growth and expense discipline led to adjusted pretax margin of approximately 36% and record adjusted EPS of $5.23. Gross profit was $1.542 billion, up $62 million sequentially. As for the key drivers, commission advisory fees net of payout, were $453 million, up $27 million from Q3.

Our payout rate was 88%, up 53 basis points from Q3 due to the seasonal build in the production bonus. With respect to client cash revenue, it was $456 million, up $14 million from Q3 as the sequential growth in balances more than offset the impact of lower short-term interest rates. Overall client cash balances ended the quarter at $61 billion, up $5 billion sequentially. A strong outcome even when considering the typical Q4 seasonal build. Within our ICA portfolio, the mix of fixed rate balances ended the quarter at roughly 55%, within our target range of 50% to 75%.

Looking more closely at ICA yield, was 341 basis points in Q4, down 10 basis points from Q3, driven by the impact of the October and December rate cuts. As we look ahead to Q1, we expect the full quarter impact of the Q4 rate cuts to lower our ICA yield by roughly 10 basis points. As for service and fee revenue, it was $181 million in Q4, up $6 million from Q3 as a full quarter of Commonwealth was partially offset by lower conference revenue in IRA. Looking ahead to Q1, we expect first quarter service and fee revenue to increase by approximately $25 million sequentially. This is driven by two factors.

First, a seasonal decline in conference revenue of approximately $10 million. This is more than offset by the impact of the fee changes we announced last quarter, which will provide an ongoing quarterly benefit to service and fee revenue of roughly $35 million or $140 million annually. Moving on to Q4 transaction revenue. It was $75 million, up $8 million from Q3, driven by increased trading volumes. As we look ahead to Q1, trading activity levels remain roughly in line with Q4. However, I would note there are three fewer trading days in Q1, so we expect transaction revenue to decline by a few million sequentially. Now let's turn to our acquisition of Commonwealth.

As Rich mentioned, the transaction is progressing well, and we remain on track to onboard in the fourth quarter. As for the financials, accounting for current client assets and cash balances as well as interest rates, we continue to estimate run rate EBITDA of approximately $425 million once fully integrated. Next, let's move on to expenses, starting with core G and A. It was $536 million in Q4, bringing our full year core G and A to $1.852 billion, below the low end of our outlook range, reflecting progress we've made driving greater efficiency and lowering our cost to serve.

For the full year, prior to the impact of Prudential, Atria, and Commonwealth, 2025 core G and A increased by approximately 4%, our lowest level of growth in several years. In 2026, we plan to continue to invest in the business to deliver greater efficiencies and drive operating leverage as we scale. Prior to Commonwealth, we expect core G and A growth of 4.5% to 7%, or $1.775 billion to $1.82 billion. In addition, we'll have the full year impact of expenses related to Commonwealth, which adds roughly $380 million to $390 million. This brings our overall expectation for 2026 core G and A to be in a range of $2.155 billion to $2.21 billion.

And to give you a sense of the near-term timing of this spend, as we look ahead to Q1, we expect core G and A to be in a range of $540 million to $560 million. Next, I want to highlight a minor update to our management P and L this quarter, where we separated TA loan amortization from promotional expense. While this is not a new disclosure, we hope the updated placement allows you to more easily analyze our results. So looking at TA loan amortization, it was $133 million in Q4, up $28 million sequentially driven by Commonwealth-related transition assistance, as well as our ongoing recruiting.

As we look ahead to Q1, expect TA loan amortization to increase by roughly $5 million primarily driven by Commonwealth. Turning to promotional expense. It totaled $76 million in the fourth quarter, down $21 million sequentially primarily driven by lower conference spend. Looking ahead to Q1, we expect promotional expense to be roughly flat sequentially. Turning to depreciation and amortization. It was $105 million in Q4, up $5 million sequentially. Looking ahead to Q1, we expect depreciation and amortization to increase by $5 million. As for interest expense, was $106 million in Q4, roughly flat sequentially as increased usage of the revolver was offset by lower short-term interest rates.

Regarding capital management, we ended Q4 with corporate cash of $470 million, down $99 million from Q3. As for our leverage ratio, it was 1.95 times at the end of Q4, near the midpoint of our target range. Moving on to capital deployment. Our framework remains focused on allocated capital aligned with the returns we generate, investing in organic growth first and foremost, pursuing M and A where appropriate, returning excess capital to shareholders. In Q4, we continued to deploy capital in line with our priorities, investing primarily in organic growth and M and A, where we advanced the Commonwealth integration and continue to allocate capital to our liquidity and succession solution.

Specific to share repurchases, a reminder that we paused buybacks following the announcement of the Commonwealth acquisition with a plan to revisit following the onboard. We look ahead, we are ahead of schedule with leverage already at the midpoint of our target range, and the operational work to onboard Commonwealth well underway. There may be an opportunity to refine the timing of resuming share buybacks later this year. In closing, we delivered another quarter of strong business and financial results. As we look forward, we remain excited about the opportunities we have to continue to drive growth, deliver operating leverage, and create long-term shareholder value. With that, operator, please open the call for questions.

Operator: Certainly. And as a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, please limit yourself to one question each. You may get back in the queue as time allows. Our first question comes from the line of Steven Chubak from Wolfe Research. Your question please.

Steven Chubak: Hi. Good afternoon, Rich and Matt. Thanks for taking my questions. Or one question.

Richard Steinmeier: Yeah. You as well. So I did want to ask on Commonwealth retention. There's been a fair amount of press coverage in recent weeks suggesting their retention was running well below that 90% target. So certainly, pleased to see the 90% target reaffirmed. Was hoping you could speak to what gives you confidence that you could still achieve that 90% asset retention figure and just given the near record recruiting pipeline that you cited, just speak to some of the actions that you're planning on taking to get core recruiting ex Commonwealth back on track? Yeah. You wanna I'll start, or you wanna start? I'll start. Yeah. I'll start with the retention Steven.

I think when you look at, retention, right, and it's based on assets, right? The assets we expect to land on our platform after the onboarding in Q4, and that's our methodology. We consistently do that on our acquisitions. So I think when you and others that are speaking here that are reading headlines about headcount departures, just to give you a little color on that, when you look at the advisers have signed to stay with LPL so far, we're now just over 80%. When you look at those, on average, they are larger, they are faster growing, and they are higher producers than those that have decided to go elsewhere.

So I think when you get some noise when you look at those headcount departures, when you look at the advisers that have committed to stay with LPL, with Commonwealth, it is an impressive group. We are really excited to welcome them on the platform as we onboard in the fourth quarter. So maybe just augment the just briefly as Matt, I think, made it very clear on the asset retention and that we're retaining the larger advisers. I think there are still advisers who are making their decisions over the course of the balance the next couple of months and maybe even through the next couple of quarters. And we are deeply connected between Commonwealth and LPL.

Help educate them on the continuing of value proposition of Commonwealth. And we are very confident that by keeping the community intact, safeguarding their experience, their culture, their capabilities, and their leadership, that will ultimately win the day. And quite honestly, those are the conversations that we're having as folks have gone through a very elongated due diligence process they're coming back to having much more productive conversations now than we were even having at the beginning. As and so maybe parting shot on that, Steven. Overall, we are thrilled with this transaction. We love the way the teams are coming together. We are excited about the prospects for our go-to-market strategy. And the integrated firm.

Now you mentioned and maybe one last thing. I will mention that as Matt said, last quarter, we updated you that we had advisers representing nearly 80% of assets have signed their agreements to stay with Commonwealth. And as of today, that has improved to the low 80% range. Of advisers representing low 80% range of assets have signed agreements to stay with Comro. As for achieving getting back on track in recruiting, I think it needs to be noted. That many of our top recruiters have been focused on Commonwealth retention efforts. And as we approach the conversion, with more Commonwealth advisers completing their diligence signed our recruiters are getting back to their organic recruiting efforts.

So looking ahead, we should gradually return to more normalized recruiting outcomes driven by increased in weight, increased win rates in traditional markets with our unmatched value proposition, further penetrating the wire and regional employee adviser space where there was growing awareness of our solution, and we continue to narrow the gap. On capabilities. And of note there, over the last couple of years, we have grown our capture of wirehouse and regional employee advisers from 9% of all advisors in motion to now up above 11% of all advisers in Motion. And augmenting that our liquidity and succession solutions create an important part of the value proposition for new advisers.

Join, so they'll have an option when they're ready to transition their business. If you couple that with low attrition and steady contribution from same store sales, it sets us up really well to sustain mid to high single digit growth over the long term.

Steven Chubak: Well said. Thanks so much for taking my question.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Alexander Blostein from Goldman Sachs. Your question please.

Alexander Blostein: Maybe building on that a little bit, Matt, I heard you, reaffirm your, EBITDA contribution of $425 million once everything's onboarded. Maybe help unpack that a little bit because given just the assets have grown due to market largely and you're still on track to 90 and highlighted you're running, I guess, in the low eighties now. Why is it in the $4.25 higher? Are there other puts and takes we need to consider? Or you guys are just looking to revisit that, once all the full, once the asset onboarded? I just wanna kinda better understand the mark to market impact and all of

Matthew Audette: Yeah. There's just yeah. You've got assets have gone up a bit. Alex, but you've also got another interest rate cut. And when you look at the cash sweep at Commonwealth that built up in December, that's already gone back into the marketplace. So those cut those things kinda net offset each other, and that's why we're still at roughly $4.25.

Alexander Blostein: Understood. Okay. Thanks.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Dan Fannon from Jefferies. Your question, please.

Daniel Fannon: Thanks. So wanted to follow-up just on the growth outlook in Rich, you had mentioned reigniting the growth engine at LPL. So is it just time and the timing of this in terms of getting back to regular recruiting, or can you talk to the industry dynamics and advisers in motion and, you know, kind of the recruiting backlog today where it maybe was a year ago? And just kind of thinking more about the acceleration, whether that could be more of a first half dynamic or you think it's really closer towards that onboarding of the Commonwealth assets.

Richard Steinmeier: Yeah. I appreciate it, Sam. There's a lot in there. So maybe let's start with the recruiting environment first. I will tell you, we pay very close attention to the advisers in motion. And relative to historic norms, we still see that adviser movement remains tempered relative to historic levels. Now look. Truth there is that there are events in the marketplace that can drive that churn to higher levels, and that one right now is probably the acquisition of Commonwealth. And so we're participating there, obviously, dedicating recruiters recruiting event where you're trying to educate 3,000 advisers is a very large event for us.

And so we dedicated and ring fenced set of our most sophisticated and most senior recruiters and working against that. And as I alluded to and as you referenced, as we get more signs, and you mentioned where we're at, those recruiters get the chance to pivot back to their organic recruiting pipeline. But as I noted earlier, when you start building those pipelines, going to build into the earlier stages as you think about a stage progression pipeline. And so while our pipelines continue to build through Q4 and they are near record levels, they're loaded towards that early and mid-stages.

So that takes time, and we've alluded to on calls in the past you get different durations of how long a cycle time is for a recruiting event, and they vary from independent adviser ten ninety-nine direct to our supported models in strategic wealth. And Linsco have longer lead times. And so when that will pull through is a function of the mix of those advisers. And how they get through their diligence and decision making. But we expect that pull through to continue to improve over the course of the year. And maybe if we think about the environment that we're in, I think you've heard it on some of the other calls as well.

It's a competitive environment right now. Competitors remain aggressive. We've seen TA levels spike up most notably right after the Commonwealth announcement. And we see those TA levels staying elevated in the market. And so, typically, in the wake of several interest cuts, we would have expected some moderation in TA, and that really hasn't happened. Rates have remained high in absolute terms. And so from our perspective, nothing about our approach has changed. We stayed disciplined on returns. With TA being a part of the conversation, but really not the driver of decisions. And as a reminder, advisers in motion's priorities continue to be one capabilities, technology, service, culture. Two, ongoing economics, and then third, upfront economics.

So as you put that all together, I think recruiting activity normalizes, we'd expect organic growth to pick up as those pipelines convert. Positioning us to reignite and sustain industry-leading organic growth over time.

Daniel Fannon: Great. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Craig Siegenthaler from Bank of America. Your question please.

Craig Siegenthaler: Thanks. Good evening, everyone. My question is on footnote 15 from the historical file. You disclosed purchase money market funds there, and it looks like they might be finally at a ceiling. So I'm wondering, do you expect liquidity to start to run there with a few more Fed cuts? And where does that go? Is there an opportunity to generate more ROA on that? Maybe an alts, insurance, and probably eventually back in the cash sweep?

Matthew Audette: Kudos, Craig, on the detailed historical file there. I thought he would have called on historical footnote 14. Yeah. 50. Cover that with the code. But I think it's a good one. Like, when you look Yeah. There you go. Think so what you're hitting on is the kind of the cash equivalents and how much money they're in either purchase money markets or short-term bond funds and treasuries. And I think we saw those build throughout this cycle. Those balances collectively are in excess. So purchase money market per plus those other categories, treasuries, short-term bond funds, in excess of cash rebalances overall.

And I think as the rate environment comes down, as you see those things advisers get their clients back in the marketplace, I think it's very natural that those are the types of funds that will go back into place. So there's more than just purchase money markets in that category, but I think it gives you a good sentiment on where advisers are putting their clients as cash yields come down in the equity markets and other even on the brokerage side, like annuities and things are opportunistic. So I think that's what you see driving, the movements there.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Michael Cho from JPMorgan. Your question please.

Michael Cho: Hey, good evening, Rich, Matt. Thanks for taking my question here. I just wanted to touch on Commonwealth as well. Just from more from an I guess, an integration perspective. I mean, you closed the deal maybe four, five months ago. I'm wondering, you know, can you just talk through the progress of integration and then preparing for the onboarding ahead? Any key takeaways you'd highlight or anything that might influence priorities for the broader LPL organization looking ahead? Thanks.

Richard Steinmeier: Yeah. Hey. Thanks, Michael. It's good to have you. So integration is going really well. And I would note here one of the things that over the last five to seven years, we have done a lot is major integration events. If you think through M and T, BMO, TruStage, Waddell and Reed, Atria, there's a number of large events that we have gone through in Prudential that have critical builds across in many of those instances above a $100 million in debt, sometimes above $200 million in debt.

And so as we look into Commonwealth, we have scoped before we went into this, transaction, we had scoped all of the capabilities that we needed to build that would benefit not only Commonwealth Advisors, as they come onto the platform, but all of our advisors and institutions. The scoping of that work is completed. We have our model build. We've begun dev already. And some of the complexity of the dev there is what drove an elongated time frame for the conversion. We're feeling really good about our ability to look deliver against that capability development. And for our advisers to experience it.

And I think we've referenced some of this before, but in Commonwealth is exceptional in the delivery of their service experience. And some of that is a large part of that is informed by the way they receive feedback. That is a difference from the way our construction of our workstation was set up. And so we're building an incredibly robust read feedback ingestion engine. Allows us to actually get feedback from advisers just to prioritize that, disposition it to folks to work on that, and then execute against that, making it a frictionless environment kind of one day at a time.

One of the other things they have is a fantastic, single relationship agreement across multiple account structures that we've had to go through pretty significant build, and we're in the middle of that build, to build that, which will be benefited by all of our advisers. And so there is a list, and that includes householding, repricing, restructuring the pricing construct of some of our advisory platforms as well. So we have a good, understanding of the build that's there. We have a great of the capabilities that will be delivered.

And now part of that is now moving into the definition of that target state operating model, which I alluded to earlier, we are in the middle of the articulation of that target state operating model. Working deeply with Wayne Bloom and his team to make sure that we are keeping Commonwealth, that we are keeping the folks who serve the Commonwealth Advisors the same people, and giving them tools and capabilities to deliver the exceptional service that has resulted in 12 consecutive J. D. Power awards for independent adviser satisfaction, a record in the industry. Thought is that we build those capabilities so that they can keep going to number 13 and fourteen and fifteen.

And while they do that, we increase our ability to serve with distinction just like Commonwealth does today. So of that taken together we feel really good about our understanding of what needs to be done. We feel good about our ability to and deliver. We feel great about the combined value proposition that will result from the two firms.

Michael Cho: Great. Thanks, Rich.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Benjamin Budish from Barclays. Your question please. Hi, good evening and thank you for taking the question.

Benjamin Budish: I think earlier in the Q and A, Rich, you were talking about an increased win rate of advisors and most of coming from the wires. Just curious if you could unpack a little bit more what's going on there. It seems like some of the both media coverage and commentary from some of the bigger banks is that they're looking to get more aggressive whether it's on, you know, recruiting, TA packages, whatever it may be. So, you know, what do you attribute to sort of the recent success?

You know, how important do you see, some of the pieces that are being built out in securities backed lending and the old platform and things like that are expected to be in place by the end of the year as improving that position. And you know, again, you talked about competition broadly, but how would you describe the state of competition with you know, that group of competitors specifically? Thank you.

Richard Steinmeier: Yeah. Thanks, Ben. So if we go back what underpins that movement of us improving our capture rates in that wire and regional employee channel. The first is that on balance, you've got a macro tailwind there for you. We've seen a crossover that as advisers have moved out of wires, and W2 channels more broadly, historically, it's been that they move from one W2 channel to another one W2 firm to another W2 firm.

What you've seen is increasingly year in and year out, the percentage of advisers that are in a W2 channel when they're making a move that has crossed the threshold of more than 50% of advisers that are in W2 channels making a move, actually move to an independent construct. For us, we are the leading player for folks who want to run their own independent business because we have multiple affiliation models. The second stage in our journey was that we introduced affiliation models several years ago that made it more attractive for folks who are in a W2 construct to move to independence with support on their side.

That was the theory to the case in the construction of our strategic wealth offering that helps ten ninety-nine advisers set up, move, and have a support mechanism around them with incredible support. As well as our W2 channel introduction Linsco. Now beyond that, what we had was and we referenced this kind of pretty consistently in the quarters. Is we still had some capability gaps relative to product set lending, and some high net worth capabilities. And we are steadily knocking those down one at a time and our consideration rate continues to go up. So what we find is that advisers are increasingly willing to get into conversations with us.

And they may be getting there because of the Linsco channel. They may be getting there because of strategic wealth. And ultimately, they'll land across the gamut of either establishing their own RIA, which we support, in our own independent employee W2 channel, and a supported independence channel or in a direct ten ninety-nine affiliation on our corporate RIA. So we have more affiliation landing spots than any other firm. And maybe lastly, to leg into that, we have added, a national brand campaign that highlights and makes more clear to end investors, and we've seen an improvement of aided and unaided brand awareness, both of our firm for both end investors as well as advisers.

Lastly, Commonwealth is a very validating event to our position in the marketplace. They are a premium brand. They have premium capabilities, and they have the best advisers in the industry. The leadership of that firm chose us as the best firm to support those advisers and that made more W2 advisers stand up and take notice of this firm as a leading firm in wealth management.

Benjamin Budish: Alright. That was very comprehensive. Thank you, Rich.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Brennan Hawken from BMO Capital Markets. Your question please.

Brennan Hawken: Good afternoon, Rich and Matt. Thank you for taking my question. Sort of a two-parter here. So I know that Commonwealth is in focus. You've got spoke to allocating your best recruiters to task. Of course, it takes time for net new asset pipelines to rebuild. So how long do you think it would take to start to see know, regular way net new assets revert to the rates that are more in line with your strong track record of growth. And then do you think it's possible we could get maybe a mark to market on how net new assets are progressing here to start out the year and maybe an update on cash balances?

Matthew Audette: Yeah. I'll start, Brennan. I'll start with, how January's going so far. We look at maybe start with organic growth. And I think as I you know, as I've I mentioned in the prepared remarks, I think you know well, January is usually one of the slowest months of organic growth for the year for two factors or two reasons. The year-end slowdown that you see in December, second half of the December, there's really no recruiting that could come on board. And then it takes a couple weeks into January to ramp up both recruiting, same store, etcetera. So January is usually pretty low, and then you get as you move February and March, it builds.

And then you also have advisory fees that hit primarily in the first month of the quarter. And as we're getting bigger and bigger on the advisory side, you know, 58, you know, 59 ish percent advisory now. That's a bigger number that hits in the first quarter. You put all that together, and we're around two and a half percent, organic growth in January. Again, with the expectation that then February and March builds. On the cash sweep side, I'd say there's, you know, a couple days remaining, but I'd give you the headline that January is shaping up a bit better than you would typically see. You do have that same seasonal on advisory fees.

Which are around 2 and a half billion dollars, so that comes out of cash. Directly during the month. But outside of that, the Q4 buildup that we saw largely in December largely remains. So cash balances beyond fees are down roughly a billion. So you put all that together and balances are down around 3 and a half billion, which would put overall cash sweep at roughly 57 and a half. And just to give context, if you look at that Q4 build, that large largely happened, or almost entirely happened, in December, we're sitting right now 3 billion above November levels.

So, hopefully, that gives you a sense as to kinda how sticky the cash has been this year as opposed to as opposed to prior years. Maybe, Rich, I'll give it back to you on the timing of organic growth question.

Richard Steinmeier: Yeah. So I think, Brandon, the way to think about this is as we alluded to, we sit in the low eighties in terms of AUM, assets that are committed to join, and that's a not a complete proxy as Matt had alluded to for the actual number of advisers, based on the fact that we have larger advisers joining. But what you'd see there is as we started you know, in April, we had a real shift of our recruiters into that event. And we are now moving towards the tail end of that event.

The issue that you have at hand is that the lead times for recruiting for an independent adviser going from one firm to the next usually sit between three to six months. And so once you enter pipeline, you can think about that as the time frame for most center of gravity decisions to make to move from firm to firm. As you get into larger advisers, especially as they're considering supported models like Linsco, if they're establishing their own RIA as well. Or our strategic wealth you're oftentimes with those larger teams looking at pipeline you know, decision making to conversion that sits center of gravity between six months to a year.

So it really does depend on the mix makeup of what we have in pipeline. As we alluded, we've seen really nice pipeline build. Especially into the first couple stages of our pipeline. And what it takes is a little bit of time, especially with those seasoned recruiters to progress those through the pipeline. So as we alluded to, it's going to occur during the course of this year, and I'm probably giving an answer that is more precise than that at this moment in time. I probably can't do that.

Brennan Hawken: Got it. Thanks for taking my question.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Devin Ryan from Citizens Bank. Your question please.

Devin Ryan: Wanna shift to the enterprise channel and Prudential specifically now that we're a little bit over a year. Past that integration. And just would love to in a little bit more around, you know, some of the learnings. I'm sure you have a lot more data today on how that's going. So it would just be great if you could give any proof points to us on how it's going, what type of acceleration in growth are you or they seeing? And then just how it sets you up for maybe more in the insurance channel. I'm curious if you're seeing interest from other parties as these maybe positive anecdotes start to make their way to the market? Thanks.

Richard Steinmeier: Yeah. Hey. Thanks, Devin. So just as a reminder, we brought on through 2024, in November. Where they added about $67 billion in assets. And we knew as we were in discussions, Drew has a fantastic wealth franchise. And they were always bullish on their outlook for the wealth management business. And they were looking for ways to further advance the business. We got into that partnership and we had quite a bit of build to build in terms of the capability sets. And as we built those capability sets, it positions us well to be able to work with other insurance firms and or product manufacturers.

But I actually do have the ability to be a little bit outspoken here, mostly because we would never break news for our partners. But in the fourth quarter, Prudential announced that their adviser headcount growth had accelerated 9% year to date. And they had roughly 3 billion in NNA. And that was in the fourth quarter, not the completion of the fourth quarter. And I can tell you, I was with them over the holidays. They are in incredibly bullish on their franchise. They have a fantastic sales infrastructure. Their leadership structure is very strong. They develop new advisers really well. And their backlog of other insurance-based advisers looking at potential continues to grow.

We have had really great results as we partner with them in recruiting to their franchise. In terms of our pipeline, I think this is where you get I mentioned this a couple of times before, a signature event and a signature partnership I would call this very akin to our M and T Bank where M and T plowed and took a leap of faith with us to plow into new territory of a larger bank wealth outsourcing. That really moved from why are you doing that to why aren't you doing that? And I think those are the discussions we're beginning to get into, but I think there just needs to be a recognition.

We have a recognition that other firms, there's some trepidation to get into those conversations because Prudential really broke the mold in how they partnered us. I think I can speak pretty clearly for them when we both are incredibly happy about the results and think that their franchise is very strong and positions them incredibly externally. I'm so proud of being able to be a partner of Pru. And we're looking forward to having further conversations with you know, I think a number of firms have begun exploratory conversations, but more progressed conversations.

Devin Ryan: Alright. Great. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of William Katz from TD Cowen. Your question please. Great. Thank you very much, and happy anniversary since no one else has said that.

William Katz: Just a couple maybe interconnected questions. Matt, you alluded to possibility of accelerating the sort of capital deployment that you run a little bit ahead on in terms of operationally and your leverage ratios. You give us a sense of what milepost we should be looking at to potentially think about maybe starting to reincorporate capital return. And then just on the interest rate management side of the equation, you're sort of running at the lower end of your fixed to float. How are you thinking about that shape as you look into the new year given that forward curves are relatively stable from here? Thank you.

Matthew Audette: Yeah. What anniversary, Bill? I know what he's talking about. So first off, he's super generous. Like, that's a very thoughtful person. We always knew that about Bill, but appreciate it, Bill. He's talk thinks that this is a one-year anniversary of my first earnings call, I think. It was actually Q3. Couple of weeks after. Oh, is that it, Bill? It what? They muted on. Yeah. Oh, look at you. Super thoughtful. My anniversary was in August, so my wife would know, that's that's the one she Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yep. Well, very good, Bill. Alright. So on your two-part question.

So I think on share repurchases, I think in just to level set on our expectations initially when we announced the acquisition of Commonwealth, it was about making sure that we got our leverage down back down to two times. And at that point, we would revisit capital returns. And given the timing of Commonwealth onboarding, in Q4, that '4 that implied, we'd look at it in Q4. And I think as we've talked about today being ahead of plans on the deleveraging side, which is good. In the Commonwealth onboarding, while the timeline changed, the prep is going well.

I think I would I would take this as we're looking at you know, whether we can start those share repurchases earlier. I would range that and say maybe a quarter earlier is what we're thinking. But I would just underscore, we've still got some work to do to really refine that. And we'll give an update in a future quarter, but I think just given where leverage is, I wanted to at least give an indication as to as to where our thinking was. With respect to second part of your question on fixed rate sweep, no change in plan and approach there. It really is about that year-end build that you see in Q4.

That's really what drove that down. As the stability of those cash balances really lands in this quarter and as I talked about for January so far, it's being a little bit stickier than it has in prior years. Then we'll kinda move into the fixed rate market typically landing, you know, in that low six low to mid 60% where we typically are. So that would be the plans for Q1, that fit that, being in the that 55% zone or, you know, mid to upper 50% zone. It's really about just the year-end buildup in December.

William Katz: Thank you both. Yep.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Michael Cyprys from Morgan Stanley. Your question please.

Michael Cyprys: Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I just wanted to ask around core G and A. I think that your guide implies underlying core G and A growth of 4.5% to 7%, which is a bit of an acceleration from the underlying 4% you put up in '25. So I just hope you could elaborate on what's driving that acceleration into '26, maybe speak to some of the areas you're investing in across '26. Here, and maybe if you could also just update us on some of the initiatives that you have across expanding technology capabilities, broadening out the platform for adviser, just are your priorities here at TwentySix around that? Thank you.

Matthew Audette: Yeah. You bet. I mean, I think just to, you know, build a little bit of context on or reflect a little bit on 2025. Because our initial outlook for 2025 was six to 8%. And even that range would if you look back at the last four or five years, would have been the lowest growth rate. And to the, you know, the premise or the point of your question, we ended up landing much lower than that at 4%. Which has that next year's guide, four and a half to be a little bit of increase. But I'd underscore that is about what we're able to deliver in 2025.

That is the lowest growth rate in quite some time. And it really was driven by the cost efficiency work that we were able to deploy. And things that are recurring savings and structural improvements to how we operate. And I think getting to your question on 2026, in that four and a half to seven, I think we're we've we're we're focused on doing a lot of the same, but I would say balancing making sure we're continuing to drive investments or make investments that really improve our offering and drive growth, and at the same time, continuing to make additional investments that can really drive us efficiency and scale in the business.

I think we are in the early stages of the opportunity we set we have to make investments that not only allow us to scale better, but also improve the client experience. And I think what you see in that range of even if you look at the midpoint of the range, that still would be one of our lowest growth rates in quite some time. And I think what it reflects is the opportunities that we have to really drive that growth. And I think even when you look at the range, it is a little bit wider than we typically do, four and a half to seven, so two and a half points versus two.

And that's also just reflected of the number of initiatives that we have from an automation standpoint, from an AI standpoint, and, you know, the precision with which you can predict when those hit. Right? Those things that could impact, the current year a little bit. But I would just could shift out something that's gonna come in Q2. Maybe it comes in Q3. our confidence from a run rate standpoint of the opportunities that we have in front of us to continue to drive efficiencies that improve the bottom line, but also improve our client experience. It's a long list. We're excited about it. And I think that's what you see reflected in that guide.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jeffrey Schmitt from William Blair. Your question please.

Jeffrey Schmitt: Hi, good afternoon. For the Liquidity and Succession solution, and I think you spent a little over $50 million in the quarter, how do the returns on that look compared to traditional M and A and recruiting? I mean, the a lot lower in M and A? I know recruiting, you've kind of pointed to that being maybe three, maybe four times in this environment. So where does that sort of shake out?

Matthew Audette: Yeah. The Jeff, L and S, like, from a from our target M and A range that we typically operate in is at six to eight times. And L and S operates right in that range. But I think a couple things that I think are a little bit different. When you think about LNS, not only the quality of earnings. Right? The economics that you're acquiring for six to eight times in LNS. Is 100% recurring, non-cash sweep earnings. So there's a higher quality there.

And then I think the strategic benefits of just really think about the life cycle of something that goes through on a LNS from acquiring it, to helping transition to the next generation helping them get to a place where they've grown and earned back the ability to buy back that practice. And during that entire time, working with them in our Linsco model, to really position them to have really use us as a leverage point on nearly everything except for focusing on their clients and being able to grow them.

When you just think about you know, the practice in any LNS opportunity, the practice we acquired versus once it is now fully in the hands of the next generation, you know, they're set up to be, you know, more efficient, faster growing, and a higher quality adviser practice as well. So there's a lot of benefits that just go beyond the pure economics, but underscore the economics, it's the same range, six to eight times. But it's a higher quality earnings because there's that's 100% noncash sweep economics that you're acquiring.

Jeffrey Schmitt: Okay. Great. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Wilma Burdis from Raymond James. Your question please.

Wilma Burdis: Do you think there's some level of short-term interest rates where we'll start to see more cash build? And if so, are we starting to approach that level? And maybe you could just talk a little bit about the rate cuts in 4Q 'twenty five and how that may or may not have contributed to some build in the quarter. Thanks.

Matthew Audette: Yeah. I think when you look at cash balances, and I think we have been when you think about the operational nature of them and we're just looking at the fourth quarter, in that build that you typically that you typically see and you saw in December kinda kind of putting those dynamics aside. Like, when you look at the average balances per account, they've been they've been quite stable for quite some time and though, you know, rounding to about $5,000, which I think when you think about the cash necessary to manage an account, we've really reached those levels. And I think that's why you saw that bigger than typical build in the month of December.

So to get to your point, I think when we when we look ahead, as rates come down and kinda where do we think cash sweep is going, I think there is a bias to being stable to up just given it's at the levels that are really necessary to manage the account. We've seen that we've seen that stability for a few quarters. Last couple quarters, that average balance per account's actually grown. So I think that's the dynamic there. You know, the individual rate cut in cutter two in the quarter, Wilma, I don't think that typically wouldn't would, would really drive that.

I think what moved cash balances in the quarter is that seasonal build for rebalancing and tasks, loss harvesting, and things like that.

Wilma Burdis: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to Richard Steinmeier for any further remarks.

Richard Steinmeier: Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to speaking with you again in April. Have a good night.

Operator: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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