RMR (RMR) Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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DATE

Thursday, May 7, 2026 at 1 p.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

• President and Chief Executive Officer — Adam Portnoy
• Chief Operating Officer — Matthew Paul Jordan
• Chief Financial Officer — Matthew Brown

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TAKEAWAYS

• Distributable Earnings -- $0.44 per share, positioned at the high end of internal expectations for the quarter.
• Adjusted EBITDA -- $18.5 million, also at the high end of the company’s guidance range.
• Adjusted Net Income -- $0.11 per share, falling $0.01 short of management's issued guidance.
• Recurring Service Revenues -- $42 million, reflecting a sequential decline of approximately $1 million primarily due to reduced hotel sales, lower enterprise values at SVC and DHC from debt paydowns, and the Alaris Life business wind-down.
• Recurring Cash Compensation Expense -- $37.7 million, increasing slightly sequentially driven by annual payroll tax and benefit resets for 2026.
• Recurring G&A Expense (excluding share grants) -- $10.1 million, slightly declining sequentially due to lower normal course legal and professional fees.
• Income Tax Rate -- 22% this quarter, elevated by fair value adjustments, mainly in Seven Hills, recognized at different statutory rates.
• Next Quarter Guidance: Adjusted EBITDA -- $19 million to $21 million; distributable earnings forecasted at $0.48 to $0.50 per share, per Chief Financial Officer Matthew Brown.
• Recurring Service Revenue Outlook -- Expected to rise to approximately $44 million next quarter, driven by Greenwich portfolio revenues, higher construction management fees, and improved managed REIT enterprise values.
• Current Liquidity -- Approximately $133 million, including $75 million of revolver capacity, following significant SVC and Greenwich investments.
• Managed REIT Incentive Fees -- $23.6 million earned for 2025; both DHC and ILPT accrued additional incentive fees this quarter, supporting ongoing outperformance in total shareholder return.
• DHC Operating Metrics -- Normalized FFO of $33 million ($0.14 per share), adjusted EBITDA of $74 million, and 13.5% YOY same-property NOI growth with a 110 basis point occupancy gain; completed sale of 13 communities for $23 million.
• DHC Asset Sale Trend -- Asset sales expected to slow in 2026 after completing approximately $605 million in 2025 disposals.
• DHC Credit Ratings -- Moody’s upgraded DHC with a positive outlook in April, citing progressing operating performance and a stronger balance sheet.
• SVC Capital Actions -- $575 million equity offering completed, enabling elimination of all unsecured debt maturities until 2028 and funding further hotel optimization and asset sales; RMR anchor invested $50 million in SVC equity.
• SVC Dividend Impact -- RMR’s SVC investment will generate approximately $420 thousand in incremental quarterly dividends.
• ILPT Leasing and Financing -- Executed 862,000 square feet of leasing at rental rates 26% above previous levels, and refinanced $1.6 billion of debt for the Mountain joint venture with a fixed 5.7% interest rate, transitioning from floating-rate and amortizing debt.
• Seven Hills Funded Loan Originations -- Three loans totaling $67.5 million originated; distributable earnings reported at $0.24 per share; total loan commitments rose to a record $776 million portfolio-wide.
• Private Capital AUM Growth -- Segment AUM increased from near zero in 2020 to nearly $12 billion currently, and is anticipated to be a key driver of future revenue and earnings growth.
• Residential Platform Update -- $4.7 billion in value-add residential assets across 18,500 units; closed off-market Greenwich, CT multifamily acquisition for almost $350 million, with RMR co-GP investment of $6 million (5% ownership) and $120 million raised from institutional LPs.
• Residential Portfolio Performance -- Occupancy nearing 94%, resident retention over 70%, and absorbed rent increases above 3%.
• Enhanced Growth Venture Fundraising -- Launched with an approximate $250 million target, current pipeline includes significant investor diligence and active capital-raising activity.
• Sum-of-the-Parts Disclosure -- New investor presentation slide highlights shares trading at five times EBITDA from 20-year evergreen management contracts, described as "materially below" peer multiples by Chief Operating Officer Matthew Paul Jordan.
• OPI Restructuring -- Bankruptcy plan approved; expected emergence by quarter end. RMR to manage OPI for five years on flat annual fees ($14 million for first two years), with property management terms unchanged.
• Global Investor Outreach -- Nearly 100 investors representing almost $7 trillion in AUM engaged through international sales and brand-building efforts, despite fundraising slowdown linked to Middle East conflicts.
• Geographic Fundraising Data -- North American real estate captured 65% of global fundraising dollars, with value-add strategies making up 56% of capital raised industry-wide.
• Construction Management Fee Revenue -- Sequential and YOY declines linked to project wind-downs at DHC and SVC; slight ramp anticipated next quarter with new project starts.
• Private Capital JV Structure -- Current multifamily investments are mainly one-off joint ventures; strategy aims to develop a dedicated fund while maintaining private-structure deals.

SUMMARY

The RMR Group Inc. (NASDAQ:RMR) reported distributable earnings of $0.44 per share and adjusted EBITDA of $18.5 million, achieving the upper end of internal expectations in an unsettled market. The company participated as an anchor investor in SVC's $575 million equity offering with a $50 million stake, eliminating SVC’s unsecured maturities until 2028 and generating additional dividends for RMR. Two managed REITs—DHC and ILPT—continued to accrue incentive fees, with DHC showing marked improvement in FFO, EBITDA, and same-property NOI, and Moody’s affirming the credit outlook upgrade. Private capital growth advanced with RMR's $350 million Greenwich, CT multifamily acquisition and ongoing efforts to build a fund platform, as the firm presses forward with global investor engagement amid challenging fundraising conditions. Management disclosed shares trade at a steep discount to peer EBITDA multiples, referencing 20-year evergreen contract cash flows, and expects OPI to emerge from bankruptcy shortly with a new five-year flat-fee arrangement in place.

• Chief Financial Officer Matthew Brown confirmed guidance discontinuation for adjusted net income, stating the metric’s reduced usefulness from real estate depreciation and interest effects.
• Chief Operating Officer Matthew Paul Jordan directly attributed a 50% drop in 2026 global fundraising activity to Middle East conflict.
• RMR expects its new investments in SVC and the Greenwich joint venture to be accretive to quarterly revenues and dividends beginning next quarter.
• Management detailed that nearly all new multifamily exposure remains privately structured and indicated no near-term rollup into a public vehicle.
• DHC’s 2026 asset sale pace will decelerate as focus shifts to portfolio NOI improvements rather than further large-scale dispositions.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

• SHOP: Senior Housing Operating Portfolio—DHC's segment managing senior living communities with direct NOI exposure.
• FFO: Funds From Operations—an industry-standard measure of REIT operating performance, excluding gains/losses on sales and select noncash expenses.
• NOI: Net Operating Income—property-level income from operations before depreciation, interest, and corporate expenses.
• GP: General Partner—the party managing a joint venture fund, often earning management fees, carried interest, and holding primary control roles.
• Carried Interest: Performance-based compensation to GPs once investment return hurdles are met in a fund.
• Evergreen Management Contracts: Indefinite-term agreements to provide management services, typically featuring long-duration revenue streams.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Bryan Maher: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining The RMR Group Inc.’s fiscal second quarter 2026 conference call. With me on today's call are President and CEO, Adam Portnoy; Chief Operating Officer, Matthew Paul Jordan; and Chief Financial Officer, Matthew Brown. In just a moment, we will provide details about our business and quarterly results, followed by a question-and-answer session. I would also like to note that the recording and retransmission of today's conference call is prohibited without the prior written consent of the company. Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and other securities laws.

These forward-looking statements are based on The RMR Group Inc.’s beliefs and expectations as of today, 05/07/2026, and actual results may differ materially from those that we project. The company undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to forward-looking statements made in today's conference call. Additional information concerning factors that could cause differences is contained in our filings with the SEC, which can be found on our website at rmrgroup.com. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon any forward-looking statements. In addition, we may discuss non-GAAP numbers during this call including adjusted net income per share, distributable earnings, and adjusted EBITDA. A reconciliation of net income determined in accordance with U.S.

Generally Accepted Accounting Principles to these non-GAAP figures can be found in our financial results. I will now turn the call over to Adam.

Adam Portnoy: Thanks, Bryan, and thank you all for joining us this afternoon. Yesterday, we reported second quarter results reflecting distributable earnings and adjusted EBITDA at the high end of our expectations, despite operating in what remains an unsettled economic environment. Our second quarter results were highlighted by distributable earnings of $0.44 per share and adjusted EBITDA of $18.5 million. Although we continue to navigate market volatility and geopolitical uncertainty, The RMR Group Inc. has been very active this year executing on our clients’ strategic initiatives. The markets continue to recognize our efforts as both DHC and ILPT remain among the best performing REITs in 2026 from a total shareholder return standpoint, extending the significant outperformance they each achieved in 2025.

As a result, The RMR Group Inc. earned incentive fees for 2025 of $23.6 million, and we are on track to earn incentive fees again this year, as both DHC and ILPT accrued incentive fees this quarter. I would now like to go over some recent highlights at our managed REITs. Before turning the call over to Matthew Paul Jordan to provide an update on our private capital initiatives, at DHC, following the successful transition of 116 senior living communities to new operators in 2025, it has continued to focus on improving SHOP operating performance while also strengthening its balance sheet.

In the first quarter, DHC generated normalized FFO of $33 million, or $0.14 per share, and adjusted EBITDA of $74 million, both exceeding analyst consensus estimates. SHOP performance showed positive momentum with year-over-year same-property NOI growth of 13.5% and occupancy increasing by 110 basis points. In March, DHC completed the sale of 13 unencumbered non-core communities for gross proceeds of approximately $23 million. Following an active 2025 in which DHC completed approximately $605 million of asset sales, we expect asset sales to decelerate in 2026 with management focused on improving NOI across the retained portfolio. Lastly, in April, Moody's upgraded DHC's debt ratings and revised its outlook to positive from stable, underscoring the company's improving operating performance and balance sheet.

At SVC, we recently made significant progress improving its balance sheet and covenant ratios. The RMR Group Inc. was instrumental in helping SVC complete a $575 million equity offering, which accelerated its deleveraging strategy, eliminated near-term refinancing risk, and provided SVC additional flexibility to optimize its hotel performance and execute further asset sales. With the net proceeds, SVC eliminated all of its unsecured debt maturities until 2028. As it relates to SVC's equity offering, I would highlight that The RMR Group Inc. participated with a $50 million anchor investment, further aligning our interests with shareholders and demonstrating our confidence in SVC's business plan.

Following several years of strategic capital investments to reposition the retained hotel portfolio, SVC is now transitioning toward an earnings recovery phase supported by new hotel leadership at Sonesta that is focused on improving operating performance. ILPT continues to deliver strong results with first quarter normalized FFO of $0.33 per share and adjusted EBITDA of $87 million, both exceeding the high end of management's guidance. ILPT also executed approximately 862 thousand square feet of leasing during the quarter at rental rates 26% higher than prior rents.

Additionally, The RMR Group Inc. recently assisted ILPT with the refinancing of $1.6 billion of new debt for its consolidated Mountain joint venture, which replaces floating-rate and amortizing debt with interest-only fixed-rate debt at an attractive 5.7% interest rate while also extending ILPT's debt maturity profile. Seven Hills, our mortgage REIT, has been actively deploying capital from its December rights offering. During the quarter, Seven Hills originated three loans totaling $67.5 million and generated distributable earnings of $0.24 per share. Total loan commitments increased to approximately $776 million in the first quarter, achieving a record high for the portfolio.

Originations thus far in 2026 are at the highest net interest margins achieved over the past four years, which reflects the benefits of our focus on middle market lending where there tends to be less competition for high-quality loans. Lastly, OPI recently received court approval for its plan of reorganization, and we expect it to emerge from bankruptcy by the end of the second quarter and for its shares to be publicly traded. We also expect The RMR Group Inc.’s contract with OPI to be consistent with our previously disclosed terms.

More specifically, The RMR Group Inc. will continue managing OPI for a five-year term, with The RMR Group Inc. receiving a flat business management fee during the first two years of $14 million per year, and our property management agreement economics will remain unchanged. To conclude, we are pleased with the progress The RMR Group Inc. has made assisting our clients with their financial and strategic objectives. While there remains more work to do, we are encouraged that the markets recognize the significant improvements at both DHC and ILPT.

It is important to remember that our publicly traded perpetual capital clients provide The RMR Group Inc. with stable cash flows, which we are using to pursue new growth initiatives in the private capital space. The private capital segment of our business has grown from essentially zero AUM in 2020 to nearly $12 billion today, and we anticipate this segment will be a key driver of our future revenue and earnings growth. With that, I will now turn the call over to Matthew Paul Jordan to provide added insights on our platform and private capital growth initiatives.

Matthew Paul Jordan: Thanks, Adam. As it relates to our private capital initiatives, with a global in-house sales team firmly in place, we are spending the necessary time building The RMR Group Inc. brand awareness. As an example, I recently had the privilege of joining Peter Welch, who leads our international fundraising efforts in Southeast Asia, meeting with potential partners and participating in events where The RMR Group Inc. stood side by side with larger, more well-established international brands. In aggregate, our international outreach has resulted in our leaders meeting with almost 100 global investors representing almost $7 trillion in AUM. With that said, the ongoing conflict in the Middle East has disrupted fundraising.

This disruption has played out in the global fundraising data, as fundraising in 2026 dropped 50% from the same time last year. The positive news for The RMR Group Inc. is that North American real estate still garnered 65% of all dollars raised and value-add strategies represented 56% of all fundraising. Within our residential business, which today represents over $4.7 billion in value-add residential real estate across 18.5 thousand owned and managed units, in April we closed on the acquisition of a multifamily portfolio in Greenwich, Connecticut for almost $350 million. The transaction was sourced off market and marks our entry into one of the most supply constrained and affluent housing markets in the country. The RMR Group Inc.

Residential will assume property management and will execute a multiyear strategy focused on modernizing the communities, enhancing the resident experience, and unlocking embedded efficiencies. The acquisition is part of a joint venture where The RMR Group Inc. is a co-general partner and, in that capacity, made a $6 million investment for a 5% ownership interest. The remaining equity of approximately $120 million was raised from two institutional partners. The RMR Group Inc. will recognize revenues from this transaction of $600 thousand in our third fiscal quarter and, as general partner, we will earn ongoing operating fees of approximately $750 thousand annually.

Longer term, the venture is expected to generate annual cash-on-cash returns of approximately 7.5%, and we expect to receive carried interest from the venture as certain investment hurdles are met. Finally, the venture will not be consolidated given our ownership is limited to 5%, and a portion of our GP interest may become part of The RMR Group Inc. Enhanced Growth Venture. As it relates to the Enhanced Growth Venture, which was launched last fall with the goal of raising approximately $250 million of third-party equity, there remains significant interest in both U.S. value-add multifamily real estate and our seeded portfolio of assets.

This interest has resulted in ongoing diligence with a number of potential investors, with the hope that we can provide a more meaningful update on our next earnings call. As it relates to the operating performance within our residential business, we, along with our joint venture partners, remain pleased as occupancy approaches 94%, with resident retention currently over 70% and retained residents absorbing rental rate increases of over 3%. Operating performance at these levels will continue to help with the fundraising in the highly competitive residential space. I would like to also highlight a new disclosure we have made in our investor presentation that emphasizes the discount our shares trade at when looking at our business from a sum-of-the-parts perspective.

As we illustrate, if one were to back out the cash and investments held by The RMR Group Inc., our shares are currently trading at only five times the EBITDA generated from the durable cash flows associated with our 20-year evergreen management contracts from our perpetual capital vehicles. This is materially below EBITDA multiples at which our peers trade. We are hopeful this new slide illustrates the significant upside embedded in our shares. In closing, it remains an active time for our organization as we continue to invest in our people, technology, and brand awareness. We are leveraging these investments to reinvent our operating structure, materially increase productivity, and ultimately drive down operating costs to deliver meaningful EBITDA growth.

With that, I will now turn the call over to Matthew Brown.

Matthew Brown: Thanks, Matt, and good afternoon, everyone. For our fiscal second quarter, we reported adjusted EBITDA of $18.5 million and distributable earnings of $0.44 per share, which exceeded or were at the high end of our guidance. I would also like to note that we reported adjusted net income of $0.11 per share, which fell $0.01 short of our guidance. Going forward, we will no longer provide guidance on adjusted net income, as our investments in leveraged real estate have significantly reduced the usefulness of this metric as we incur depreciation and interest expense on these investments.

Recurring service revenues were $42 million, a sequential quarter decrease of approximately $1 million driven primarily by hotel sales, a decrease in the enterprise value of SVC and DHC as they strategically paid off debt, and the wind-down of Alaris Life's business. Next quarter, we expect recurring service revenues to increase to approximately $44 million, driven by approximately $100 thousand of revenue from the multifamily portfolio acquisition in Greenwich, Connecticut that Matt discussed, increased construction management fees, and enterprise value improvements at certain of our managed REITs. Turning to expenses, recurring cash compensation was $37.7 million, a modest sequential quarter increase driven by calendar 2026 payroll tax and benefit resets.

Looking ahead to next quarter, we expect recurring cash compensation to remain consistent with the second quarter. Recurring G&A this quarter was $10.1 million after excluding $600 thousand in annual director share grants, which is a slight sequential quarter decrease driven by a reduction in normal course legal and professional fees. We expect recurring G&A to remain at these levels for the remainder of the fiscal year. It is also worth noting that this quarter's income tax rate was elevated at 22% driven by the impact of certain fair value adjustments that we recognized during the quarter, mainly our investment in Seven Hills, that are subject to different statutory rates than our income.

For modeling purposes, we may continue to see fluctuations in our income tax rate each quarter as these adjustments impact the timing of tax expense recognition. However, these fluctuations are not expected to materially impact our full-year estimated tax rate of 17% to 18%. Aggregating the collective assumptions I have outlined, next quarter we expect adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $19 million to $21 million and distributable earnings to be between $0.48 and $0.50 per share. As Adam and Matt highlighted earlier, subsequent to quarter end we participated in SVC's equity offering by acquiring nearly 42 million shares for $50 million and acquired a $6 million co-GP equity interest in the Greenwich, Connecticut multifamily joint venture.

Our investment in SVC will result in approximately $420 thousand incremental quarterly dividends. Accounting for these transactions, our current liquidity is approximately $133 million, including $75 million of capacity on our revolving credit facility. We continue to be well capitalized with a strong dividend and look forward to executing on our strategic objectives and taking advantage of opportunistic investments as they arise. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator: Thank you. We will now open the call for questions. We will begin the question-and-answer session. Today's first question comes from Mitchell Bradley Germain at Citizens Bank. Please go ahead.

Mitchell Bradley Germain: Thank you for taking my question. Adam, there is a whole bunch of multifamily assets that are owned in different syndications. I am curious, is the expectation of one transaction if you can lock in a larger fund? Is the expectation that this all kind of cleans up with that, or is there the potential for some of these to just continue to remain as one-off investments?

Adam Portnoy: Hi, Mitch. Thank you for that question. It is a good question. I think you have to keep in mind part of the way you answer that question is how we put together the portfolio that is our multifamily portfolio. It is the only asset class that we manage that is 100% private. We do not have a public vehicle around multifamily. That portfolio was originally, well, mostly constructed as part of the acquisition of our residential platform about a little over two years ago. Most of those investments are in joint ventures, one-off joint ventures per investment. A few of them are small portfolios.

That is how that whole business has been structured, similar to the way we bought it. I expect that we will continue to have many of those joint ventures be the form of the investments we make, especially over the short term. But I think what you are seeing in terms of the Enhanced Growth fund that Matthew Paul Jordan talked about and we have talked about on many calls is we are starting to try to put together a portfolio among the approximately $4.7 billion, which is mostly joint ventures, into, let us say, a fund that we can raise money around. So we are trying to do both.

I do not think you will see a transaction that will suddenly, let us say, roll up all $4.7 billion into a new public vehicle— I am not sure if that was your question, but that is not where we are going with that. It is likely to all stay private, likely to continue to be joint ventures, one-offs, small portfolio joint ventures, and our hope is that we can start to build a more dedicated fund around that strategy as well.

Mitchell Bradley Germain: Taking that a little bit further, I think the last couple of quarters you seemed a little bit more positive on a potential venture in, I guess we will call it commercial mortgage, as well as, I think, you have mentioned development. Are those two products just a little bit behind multifamily right now with regards to your priorities?

Adam Portnoy: They are all top priorities. I will tell you, we are continuing to talk to investors and partners about development projects. I think in the current market environment, the returns required for development projects are pretty high. Development is always difficult when you have a lot of uncertainty, and it is hard to predict the next quarter, let alone 18 months from now, which is typically what you have to sign off on for development projects. So we are continuing to work on those. I expect we will, in the course of the year or so, have some joint venture development projects underway.

It is just that today, in the multifamily space, with the portfolio that we have assembled, we are generating the highest amount of interest around that. One comment on the credit that you mentioned, Mitch. We are also very active in talking to investors around credit as well. I would not say it is less of a priority, but we have a lot of money to put out in our Seven Hills mortgage REIT right now, and I think the number is close to $500 million of capacity over the next year of new investments that we are going to be able to make between new money coming into that vehicle and expected loan payoffs.

So we have a pretty good pipeline and capacity with our existing vehicles there. We are still talking to investors around credit. There has been a general pullback around credit, given what is going on in the marketplace around some other funds that are in the credit space, especially retail-oriented funds, and so there has been some hesitancy among investors to take those conversations further at the moment. But that is okay from our perspective because we can do a lot of work there anyway. We can put a lot of AUM to work otherwise.

Mitchell Bradley Germain: Gotcha. Last one for me. I think at one point you might have had close to $300 million of cash on hand. I think that, obviously, that balance has come down a bit as you are buying some of these assets and warehousing them on balance sheet in anticipation of some of your fundraising. Where are you with regards to how much cash you want to keep on hand for some sort of rainy day? Are we getting close to an amount where you are starting to become a little bit more conservative with allocating capital, or are you still all systems go if the right opportunities are presented?

Adam Portnoy: More the “all systems go” if the right opportunities present themselves. We have over $100 million of liquidity between cash on hand and undrawn capacity on our revolver. We are also fairly optimistic that we will be getting some cash back, especially as we are hopefully successful in syndicating the Enhanced Growth value-add fund that we have built up around the multifamily strategy. We have just under $100 million of capital committed to that venture, and if we are successful in syndicating that and getting that fund launched— and we are optimistic that we will get it done— a lot of cash will also be coming back to us, we think. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question today comes from Christopher Nolan at Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Christopher Nolan: Hi, guys. Adam, is Seven Hills participating in the Greenwich project, providing debt financing?

Adam Portnoy: Hi, Chris. No. Seven Hills is not providing any sort of financing with the multifamily acquisition in Greenwich. No.

Christopher Nolan: And then, I guess, Matthew Brown, did you say adjusted EBITDA in the next quarter will be $19 million to $21 million, or did I mishear you?

Matthew Brown: Adjusted EBITDA in the fiscal third quarter is expected to be $19 million to $21 million.

Christopher Nolan: Great. I guess as a follow-up in general, Adam, how would you characterize the market for raising equity for commercial real estate as opposed to raising debt for commercial real estate?

Adam Portnoy: It is a great question. First, I am going to let Matthew Paul Jordan answer that question. Go ahead, Matt.

Matthew Paul Jordan: Well, in terms of the debt, there is a lot of debt available to lend against real estate. We have no lack of interest— just having done this on the Greenwich asset. Adam touched on fundraising around credit, which is very challenging right now for a number of reasons, including a lot of supply in the market in terms of organizations like ours going out with credit vehicles. Fundraising for equity is a very challenging effort right now. The volatility in the Middle East has taken a large number of folks that were putting a lot of money out and put them on the sidelines. Volatility is not a good thing for those that are fiduciaries of deploying capital.

The money and the allocations to real estate will be there in the long term, but right now a lot of the conversations we have had are continuing but have slowed significantly. And to Adam's point on the Enhanced Growth venture, I just think it is elongating the fundraising cycle for what we are doing. But there continue to be significant allocations— as we highlighted, we have met with a significant number of global LPs. The RMR Group Inc. itself is still a new brand, so we are spending a lot of time getting our name out there. People are amazed at the capabilities we bring and the breadth of our organization.

But things are just going to take longer until the Middle East settles down.

Christopher Nolan: Okay. And then I guess as a final question, you are seeing with some private equity shops that they are setting up distressed commercial real estate funds. Is that a potential strategy that you would consider? In my view, that tends to be preparing for some sort of, you know, down cycle.

Adam Portnoy: Chris, it is not something we are actively pursuing at the moment in terms of setting up a distressed real estate fund. We have limited pockets within The RMR Group Inc., in the different funds that we manage and groups, that if a really attractive distressed opportunity presented itself to us, we could seriously consider executing on it. But we are not building out a strategy around that today.

Christopher Nolan: Okay. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question today comes from John James Massocca at B. Riley. Please go ahead.

John James Massocca: Maybe sticking with the big-picture fundraising theme, you have seen some pullback in some other types of credit funds, private lending being the most notable. Are you seeing any indications of that capital potentially being reallocated to things that are a little more tangible like real estate, or is that just an unrelated phenomenon in your mind?

Matthew Paul Jordan: Yeah. I do not think they are related. It is interesting— when you meet with LPs, lending may not even sit in the real estate bucket. It may be in fixed income and other pockets within these large organizations. So we have not yet experienced where credit allocations have been redeployed in a way that has benefited us on the equity side.

John James Massocca: Okay. And maybe switching gears a little bit, going back to a little bit of Mitch's last question, what is the appetite today for more wholly owned assets, or at least consolidated assets on balance sheet, to help create the base for funding either the multifamily-focused fund or even maybe a retail fund going forward? Just kind of curious if you think you are at a good point in terms of the wholly owned assets you have today, or if there is more capacity to continue to add to that?

Adam Portnoy: Yeah. I think there is a little more capacity to add to it. I do not think we will be adding— until we are successful syndicating the Enhanced Growth venture— wholly owned multifamily assets on the balance sheet. But you mentioned retail. Retail is an area that we could maybe add a couple more assets to the balance sheet if it was the right type of asset. So that is an area that you could see us do some more asset-level acquisitions on The RMR Group Inc. balance sheet to help get that retail strategy further along.

John James Massocca: Okay. And then thinking about the quarterly financials, you predicted a little bit— construction supervision revenues were down pretty big, certainly quarter over quarter, but even year over year. How much of that is just the new normal, how much is maybe one-off, and how much is seasonality? Any color on how you would expect that to trend over the remainder of the year?

Matthew Brown: Yes. When you look at our construction management fee revenue sequentially, it is really just driven by the start of the year generally being a little bit slower for us as budgets are reset. As we look year over year, at some of our managed public vehicles we had some pretty extensive capital improvement projects going on— mainly within DHC and SVC— that have largely wound down. Those REITs are now forecasting less capital spend in 2026 than they were. We do expect a little bit of a ramp next quarter as we progress throughout the year.

John James Massocca: But maybe the year-over-year decline as you think about comparing it to the comparable quarter in 2025 is kind of a good way to think about it going forward?

Matthew Brown: Yeah, I think that is a good run rate.

Operator: Thank you. And that does conclude our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to President and CEO, Adam Portnoy, for any closing remarks.

Adam Portnoy: Thank you all for joining our call today. We look forward to seeing many of you at our upcoming industry conferences, including NAREIT in June, and we encourage institutional investors to contact The RMR Group Inc. Investor Relations if you would like to schedule a meeting with management. Operator, that concludes our call.

Operator: Yes, sir. Thank you very much, and we thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.

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