Outdoor Holding (POWW) Q3 2026 Earnings Transcript

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DATE

Monday, Feb. 9, 2026 at 9 a.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

• Chairman and Chief Executive Officer — Steve Urban
• Chief Financial Officer — Paul Kaczowski
• Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary — Jordan Christensen

TAKEAWAYS

• Net Sales -- $13.4 million, representing a 7% increase, outperforming broader consumer trends.
• Gross Margin -- 87.1%, maintained despite new COGS from Master FFL partnership investment.
• Gross Merchandise Value (GMV) -- $215.8 million, growing 6.4%, with firearm unit sales up over 8% sequentially and non-firearms GMV declining.
• Take Rate -- 6.2%, an improvement from the prior year's 6.17%, partially driven by platform enhancements.
• Operating Expenses -- Decreased by approximately $22 million, with recurring expenses reduced by $1.4 million through headcount, legal, and facility cost reductions.
• Net Income Before Discontinued Operations -- $1.465 million, a reversal from a $21.077 million loss in the prior year’s comparable quarter.
• Earnings Per Share (EPS) -- $0.01, versus a loss of $0.18 in the same quarter last year (from continuing operations).
• Adjusted EBITDA -- $6.5 million, a 54% increase, equating to 49% of net sales.
• Cash Generation From Operations -- Over $4 million generated, even after accounting for restructuring, legal, dividends, and related expenses.
• Cash Position -- Cash balance rose to $69.9 million, increasing $4.2 million since the prior quarter and including $500,000 in interest income.
• Share Repurchase Program -- Company intends to deploy cash for buybacks as permitted by trading windows.
• Master FFL Partnership -- Upfront COGS investment of $60,000 to $120,000 per month aimed at streamlining FFL transfer processes; this expense will persist until completion.
• Universal Payments Initiative -- Identified as "the highest priority" for engineering, targeting approximately 30% of transactions that are not currently credit card-based to drive GMV and increase take rate.
• Year-to-date Results -- First nine months net sales were $37.2 million, a marginal rise from $36.8 million, with YTD gross margin at 87.1% versus 86.7% previously.
• Legal Costs -- Ongoing legal expense remains a significant but declining factor, with management expecting gradual reduction as outstanding issues are resolved.
• Adjusted EBITDA Run Rate Objective -- Management reiterated a near-term target of $25 million adjusted EBITDA before new sales growth over the next twelve months.
• Capital Allocation -- Steve Urban confirmed ongoing website/CapEx investment, while considering prudent uses for excess cash including AI and possible bank debt to optimize the capital structure.

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RISKS

• Steve Urban explicitly identified sustained high legal and compliance costs due to SEC scrutiny and indemnification obligations, stating these expenses could persist for twelve to eighteen months or longer depending on resolution timing.
• Paul Kaczowski said, "Surplus cash generation continues to be impacted by legal costs, but we expect a larger percentage of cash from operations to gradually be retained by the company as these matters are resolved," signaling ongoing near-term cash flow pressure.
• Jordan Christensen cautioned, "Legal costs are never straight line. So we budget them straight line, but they ebb and they flow," implying variability and unpredictability in quarterly profitability.
• Master FFL partnership investment—estimated at $60,000 to $120,000 per month—will continue impacting cost of goods sold until full implementation.

SUMMARY

Management reported a second consecutive profitable quarter driven by disciplined cost reductions and operating efficiency. Platform initiatives, including the Master FFL partnership and universal payments, are expected to further boost GMV and take rate once implemented. The company’s robust cash position, targeted share buybacks, and modest capital investments support continued strategic flexibility without unduly compromising liquidity. Shareholder alignment was underscored by management compensation disclosures and a commitment to disciplined capital allocation. Developments around traditional bank financing could provide lower-cost capital alternatives for refinancing preferred equity or opportunistic investments in the year ahead.

• Sequential improvement in firearm unit sales outpaced industry benchmarks, attributed by management to enhanced buyer experience and increased used product volumes.
• Steve Urban described universal payments as "a very big opportunity for driving GMV, which in turn drives revenue," reflecting growth potential if friction in non-credit card transactions can be eliminated.
• Paul Kaczowski noted that year-to-date adjusted EBITDA per share rose to $0.12 from $0.10, and net loss before discontinued operations shrank to $4.5 million, down from $40.6 million in the prior year’s first nine months.
• Steve Urban confirmed the company was not in active bank loan discussions but recognized expanded financing options as regulatory attitudes toward industry lending shift.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

• GMV (Gross Merchandise Value): Total dollar value of goods transacted through the GunBroker marketplace over a given period, irrespective of net sales recognized by the platform.
• Take Rate: The percentage fee Outdoor Holding Company earns on each transaction facilitated through its platform.
• FFL (Federal Firearms License): A license required to engage in the business of manufacturing, importing, or selling firearms in the United States; relevant here in reference to transaction processing and compliance for firearm transfers.
• Master FFL: Strategic partnership initiative to streamline post-sale firearms transfer processes between buyers, sellers, and licensed dealers on GunBroker.com.
• Universal Payments: An in-development feature designed to enable credit card usage for all marketplace transactions, reducing friction and potentially increasing transaction volume.
• NFA (National Firearms Act) Items: Specific firearms and accessories (such as suppressors) regulated under federal law, whose tax requirements and regulatory changes impact transaction activity and marketplace volume.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Steve Urban, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Paul Kaczowski, Chief Financial Officer, and Jordan Christensen, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary. During this call, management will be making forward-looking statements, including statements that address Outdoor Holding Company's expectations for future performance or operational results. Forward-looking statements involve risks and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those statements. For more information about these risks, please refer to the risk factors described in Outdoor Holding Company's most recently filed periodic reports on Form 10 and Form 10-Q, the Form 8-Ks filed with the SEC today, and the company's press release that accompanies this call, particularly the cautionary statements in it.

Today's conference call includes non-GAAP financial measures that Outdoor Holding Company believes can be useful in evaluating its performance. You should not consider this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. For a reconciliation of this non-GAAP financial measure to net income or loss, its most directly comparable GAAP financial measure, please see the reconciliation table located in the company's earnings press release. The information discussed on this call is current as of today, 02/09/2026. Except as required by law, Outdoor Holding Company disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any information to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this call.

It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Outdoor Holding Company's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Steve Urban.

Steve Urban: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our third quarter fiscal 2026 earnings call. We believe these communications help you better understand our progress in moving and improving the company's performance. We look forward to this quarterly dialogue and we remain committed to transparent and thoughtful communication with investors. Turning to the quarterly results, fiscal Q3 2026 was a strong period operationally and financially. I am going to provide some initial thoughts, then we will turn things over to Paul to discuss our financial performance. I will close things out with some thoughts on where we are headed.

Net sales were $13.4 million, an increase of 7% or about $900,000, outperforming broader trends in our strained consumer spending environment. Gross margin remained strong for the quarter at 87%. Gross merchandise value increased to nearly $216 million and we experienced a modest improvement in our take rate to 6.2% from 6.17% in last year's period. We continue to execute our strategy to operate as a streamlined pure-play e-commerce marketplace. In the third quarter, we continued to make significant progress reducing operating expenses. Including depreciation and amortization, operating expenses declined significantly year over year, down about $22 million with our operating expenses being the largest component with a reduction of approximately $21 million.

A closer look at this expense reduction shows that a significant portion of this improvement reflects lower litigation-related costs, but importantly, recurring ordinary course corporate operating expenses declined by approximately $1.4 million driven primarily by reductions in corporate headcount, legal spend, and facilities cost. As I have said before, gunbroker.com can be operated effectively with a smaller, more streamlined organization by reducing redundancies and rightsizing our personnel to match the scope of our operations. Our actions over the past several quarters reflect that view. These cost reductions contributed to net income before discontinued operations in the quarter of $1.465 million compared to a loss of $21.077 million in the same period last year.

This translated to earnings per share of $0.01 for the quarter versus a loss of $0.18 from continuing operations in 2025's third quarter. The significant cost improvements drove strong cash generation of over $4 million from operations during the quarter even after restructuring costs, legal costs, dividends, and other costs, which Paul will discuss in more detail. Before I turn things over to Paul, I would like to touch on our most important financial metric, adjusted EBITDA, which we believe provides helpful insights into the underlying performance of the business given the level of non-recurring items impacting reporting results. To help clarify our performance, we include a table detailing adjusted EBITDA in both our earnings release and 10-Q.

This quarter's adjusted EBITDA number confirms our progress as we delivered a 54% increase in adjusted EBITDA for the quarter to $6.5 million compared to $4.3 million in 2025's third quarter. I will now turn it over to Paul Kaczowski, our Chief Financial Officer, to discuss the quarter's performance in greater detail.

Paul Kaczowski: Thanks, Steve. Excited to share some highlights from our third quarter. Outdoor Holding Company reported net income for a second consecutive quarter at just under $1.5 million in Q3. Third quarter adjusted EBITDA was $6.5 million, a robust 49% of net sales. We reported an improvement in Q3 adjusting earnings per share from the previous year's $0.04 per share to $0.05 per share. Q3 is seasonally one of our highest quarters for sales, and that remains consistent this year. GMV was $215.8 million and grew 6.4% while net revenue was $13.4 million, an increase of 7% compared to the same period last year.

Firearm unit sales were up over 8% from last quarter, while adjusted mix decreased by 3.7% resulting in an increased share of adjusted mix by 56 basis points. The significant increase in firearm GMV was partially offset by a decline in the non-firearms category. The company is committed to improving the user experience on Gunbroker and recently announced a strategic partnership with Master FFL to improve the transfer process for products subject to FFL regulations. This partnership required an upfront investment in Q3 impacting COGS, but margins remained strong at 87.1%. We anticipate this continued expense until the implementation is complete.

Bottom line is that our strong adjusted EBITDA was driven by improved operating efficiency, reduced expenses, and increased GMV when compared to last year's third quarter. The strength of the company's operating model is also evidenced in the increased cash position of nearly $4.2 million from last quarter, including $500,000 of interest income bringing our current cash balance to $69.9 million. The company intends to deploy some of that cash through its share repurchase program as trading permits. Surplus cash generation continues to be impacted by legal costs, but we expect a larger percentage of cash from operations to gradually be retained by the company as these matters are resolved.

Looking at results for the first nine months of fiscal 2026, net sales were up slightly at $37.2 million compared to $36.8 million in fiscal year 2025. Year-to-date fiscal 2026 gross margins were 87.1% versus 86.7% in last year's period. Reducing operating expenses and improving the user experience will remain a focus. For the first nine months of fiscal year 2026, our adjusted EBITDA per share is $0.12 compared to $0.10 per share for the first nine months of fiscal 2025. We have reduced operating expenses by $28.9 million year over year largely driven by legal resolutions and reduced corporate expenses.

As a result, the net loss before discontinued operations was $4.5 million for the first nine months of fiscal 2026 or $0.04 per share, a significant improvement over the $40.6 million net loss from continuing operations or $0.34 per share for the first nine months of fiscal 2025. We expect our financial performance to continue progressing on this positive trajectory, but results may be tempered by legal costs in the short term as we continue to resolve remaining issues. Now, let me turn it over to Steve for some final remarks before we take your questions.

Steve Urban: Thanks, Paul. Overall, we are pleased with the progress made this quarter. The results reflect the impact of the cost reduction initiatives implemented over the past several quarters and we believe there remains additional opportunity to further improve operational efficiency. We have made such progress by relocating the headquarters and eliminating other redundant costs, but we will continue to evaluate and execute on additional opportunities to simplify the organization. Our near-term objective remains to achieve a $25 million adjusted EBITDA run rate before sales growth over the next twelve months. Paul also pointed out our substantial cash position. In January, we announced a stock repurchase program.

We have since been in earnings-related blackout, but look forward to deploying the repurchase program when we are in open trading window over the next couple of months. We remain focused on disciplined capital allocation to support long-term shareholder value. Looking forward, expect continued cost optimization alongside targeted investments to improve the user experience on the gunbroker.com site with the goal of increasing traffic, increasing transaction volume conversion, and ultimately revenue. With our gross margins and disciplined operational efficiency, each dollar of incremental revenue will have a tremendous impact on profitability, driving improved shareholder value. That concludes our opening remarks. I will now turn the call over to the operator for questions. Thank you.

Operator: We will now begin the question and answer session. Please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. Our first question comes from Matt Koranda with ROTH Capital. Please go ahead, sir.

Matt Koranda: Hey, guys. Good morning and nice job on the quarter. Curious to hear a little bit more about what you think is driving the good performance in firearm sales for you versus NICS? You are well outpacing that. Wanted to hear a little bit more about maybe some of the enhanced seller tools that you put into place. That might be helping that? How much is it the used, the shift in the used in the industry in general that's helping you out there. Maybe just to unpack that a little bit for us.

Steve Urban: Sure. Thank you. Let's see. So our focus is on buyer experience. We have been working hard to basically streamline the process to make it as easy as possible for people to find things, to make it as easy as possible for them to buy things, transact, and then, we just did a release at SHOT Show, talked about Master FFL to streamline as much as possible the kind of the fulfillment process on the back end with the transfer dealers and what have you. So for us, it's all about buyer experience, you know, and we are creating seller tools as well. But it's all about customer experience, you know, making that experience as seamless as humanly possible.

And I think that, you know, in part, that is what's playing, you know, that's helping us drive growth is getting back to our fundamentals and focusing on the experience of the marketplace. Additionally, yes, used guns continue to be very strong. Although, you know, we've just guns in general were a great category for us over the last quarter. So our continued just continuing to focus on that customer experience. We are also continuing to work on universal payments. We are trying to just look at every aspect of the transaction process and just make it as seamless as humanly possible.

Matt Koranda: Okay. That makes sense. Curious on the universal payments implementation, Steve, maybe where are we, I guess, in terms of implementation there? When is it realistic to expect that it might be rolled out across the platform? And what does that unlock for you in terms of incremental GMV, that you can go after?

Steve Urban: Sure. So, in terms of what it could mean, right now, about 30% of our transactions are not done through credit card. And so what we look at is how many transactions are foregone because, you know, people do not want to have to send a check, go to the, you know, go to the post office, go to the bank, and get cash, go to the then take it to the post office and get a money order. So, you know, to our way of thinking, that part of the process is not as streamlined as it could be. And so you know, for us, universal payments we could make money on that 30%.

Which would, you know, increase our take rate. But we also can make that experience to the buyer more seamless by allowing them to just pull out their credit card for anything on the site as opposed to, you know, certain transactions have to be paid for in a way that has a lot more friction. And so we consider that to be a very big opportunity for driving GMV, which in turn drives revenue. In terms of timeline, you know, it's actually there's a lot of complexity in payments. There's licensing issues. There's compliance issues, KYC, AML, you're dealing with banks. Banks are slow moving. You know, it's not a super easy process.

The technology isn't that hard, but just all the process around it is, you know, challenging. So I do not really want to put out a timeline and miss it because I do not think we are quite close enough yet. But, you know, this is the highest priority for the engineering team we are working diligently every day to, you know, move the ball forward on that initiative.

Matt Koranda: Got it. Maybe just last one for me. I guess if we just run rate, which may be a little bit of a dumb way to do it, but if we just run rate the adjusted EBITDA from the third quarter here for a full year, tracking ahead of the $25 million in adjusted EBITDA target that you set out. Maybe help us understand maybe either Paul or Jordan, if he's on the call, can help us understand sort of what to expect in terms of legal fees and professional fees over the next several quarters that might kind of touch that down, that won't be adjusted.

Any help on sort of where we are in the trajectory toward the putting up a full year, the $25 million that you set out several months ago?

Steve Urban: Sure. Paul, you want to take that one?

Paul Kaczowski: Sure. You know, certainly, Matt, there's still work to do. I think the indication here is that, you know, there will still be some expenses. For items that are not settled and won't be pulled in. It's hard to say on the pure trajectory. I think, you know, some of those costs were lower than expected in Q3. And so just wanted to give you a heads up that, hey, you know, it may not always trend that same direction.

Jordan Christensen: Matt, this is Jordan. Just to add to that. Legal costs are never straight line. So we budget them straight line, but they ebb and they flow. And we, of course, hope that we resolve as many legal issues as quickly as we can because spending money on legal fees is not a value add to us whatsoever. So we're constantly trying to get these things resolved. But there may be quarters where it's higher than expected, and there may be quarters where it's lower than expected. But the overall goal is just to knock those things out as quickly as possible.

Matt Koranda: Okay, guys. I'll leave it over to someone else here. Thank you.

Operator: And the next question comes from Mark Smith with Lake Street. Please go ahead.

Mark Smith: Hi, guys. Wanted to ask first off just as we look at solid firearms sales and revenue across the board. Is there anything to call out for instance Florida with the tax holiday? Was that a driver of increased sales or anything else that you can point to that helped kind of the outperformance?

Paul Kaczowski: Yes. We did look at that. It was up, but it was not a large driver of the overall performance. And it was a combination of new and used firearms both that were up versus the same quarter a year ago. Okay. With used leading the way. But both categories were higher.

Mark Smith: Okay. And looking forward, I would assume maybe similar thoughts around kind of NSA items with tax stamp going away, you know, sounds like this could be a positive for you. Here, especially in this next quarter. But is it big enough to really move the needle? Curious if you have any thoughts on that.

Steve Urban: So I think it's a good question. And obviously, requires me to dust off my crystal ball. But I think that there's no question NSSF just put out adjusted mix numbers and obviously a lot of people were just holding off on NSA items for the tax to go away. So there's been kind of a burst of that activity around there. And I think that, you know, that same burst of activity specifically in NSA kind of drives interest in general in firearms.

So, you know, I think that, you know, if this isn't a I wouldn't say this is a 2020 COVID situation or whatever, but I think the market's a little better than it was, you know, since the first of the year. Than it has been prior.

Mark Smith: Okay. And then I did want to hit operating expenses again, you know, a good step down in operating expenses. This quarter. Does a lot of this feel like, and I know Paul just talked about, you know, some legal, some things that are still happening. But, you know, any thoughts as we look forward at when or where we get to kind of a mobile call, normalized quarterly OpEx.

Steve Urban: Know, it's still off in the future. One of the biggest and actually, let me delineate, you know, OpEx versus things that are adjusted. In terms of OpEx, we are working to reduce our OpEx every day. There were certain requirements in our settlement with the SEC. There were certain requirements that require us to also just we want to make sure that we're doing everything by the book, you know, because we're under additional scrutiny here, just from, you know, having been under the SEC's eyes. For a long period of time. So we're really working hard to make sure that we do everything.

We have, you know, a lot more that we are looking at things a lot closer than, you know, we're everything we do, we're just looking at it. Make sure that everything is right. We want to, you know, we don't want to make any mistakes. And so that increases our costs. We have, we're spending more money on legal, we're spending more money on compliance. We're spending more money on internal auditing. And so we're trying to kind of cost reduce that over time. But as we pointed out in the past, there's really, you know, it's twelve to eighteen months out in the future. It's been a few months since then.

Was kind of the point at which, you know, we expect that stuff to drop off appreciably. And then from an adjusted standpoint, from a cash flow standpoint, the indemnification of, you know, former officers is one of the, it's just we spend a lot of money on legal fees indemnifying former officers and that won't end until such time as, you know, they settle with the or that they go through, you know, their process with the SEC and there's some resolution on that. And so we see the light at the end of the tunnel but we're not in control of, you know, when those things are gonna occur.

Mark Smith: Okay. And the last one for me is just as we think about cash generation and capital allocation. And Steve, you talked a little bit about in your closing remarks. But you've got the buyback authorization that's out there now. Anything else that we think of that we should be thinking about that maybe takes a more significant investment here in the near term? And then if you want to talk at all about your thoughts maybe around the preferred later this year.

Steve Urban: Sure. So, you know, we invest in the company we invest in our website every day. You know, most of what our engineering team does is really CapEx. You know, we're developing new software. We're developing new features. Developing new functionality, developing new processes. All of that is an investment. And so we have a substantial budget for, you know, investment in the platform. And we spend that money every day, and we've always done that. In terms of new things outside of that, we are looking at a number of initiatives. AI has come on the scene the last three years, and, you know, we're always looking at we use AI internally right now.

We do a lot of things with AI, but we're always looking at ways to, you know, improve and streamline and, you know, improve the, again, the buying experience, improve the internal operations, what have you. And so we're looking at focused areas to potentially invest some money. But when you look at the pile of cash that we have, those investments would not be that significant compared to the amount of cash we generate, the amount of cash that we have on our balance sheet. So right now, I mentioned we were in a blackout period.

Right now we consider our shares highly undervalued and we're going to be out executing on our repurchase plan now that the blackout has ended. And in terms of other things we're just always looking at what we can do with that cash and trying to be smart about it. We don't want to squander the cash. It's not that easy to make. We want to make smart decisions and we want to always drive shareholder value and so we're always looking at ways to deploy that capital to achieve those goals.

Mark Smith: Excellent. That's helpful. Thank you, guys.

Operator: And the next question comes from David Cannon with Cannon Wealth Management. Please go ahead.

David Cannon: Hi, good morning. Congratulations and thank you, Steve, and your entire team for your hard work and execution. One more thing because I know you're not going to highlight this is you being so aligned with the shareholders is very welcome. By myself and probably the majority of shareholders. Some may not know that you've forgotten salary that essentially you're making $1 a year and you're aligned with us with the stock to a very high magnitude. So thank you for that. So first question, is in regard to the investment that you're making in FFL. And the impact that it had on COGS, if you could just quantify that for us? For the quarter?

And then also for the twelve-month period, what you anticipate that to be in total?

Steve Urban: You mean Master FFL. Correct?

David Cannon: Yes. You had said that you were investing. My apologies. You in the prepared remarks, you said that you were investing and I guess it was a consultant or a vendor that was helping in there and that there was a cost that impacted COGS.

Steve Urban: Correct. I'll let Paul talk about the cost. But in terms of, you know, the Master FFL announcement, again, this is, you know, this is an attempt to streamline a point of friction in the buying process. Firearms have to be shipped to a licensed dealer in the US. You can't just ship a gun to your house. It has to be shipped to a licensed dealer and the buyer has to pick it up from a licensed dealer. And so there's a whole, there's paperwork that needs to change hands. There's things that need to be done to facilitate that.

And we identified that as a point of friction again and with the goal of improving the buyer experience we are making an investment in that area and we expect it to be something that generates revenue over time. But there is a little bit of an initial investment. And I'll let Paul address that right now.

Paul Kaczowski: Yeah. So it's about, you know, $60,000 to $120,000 a month here in terms of the nominal investment, and it's really intended to get all the plumbing working coordination, to make the tool really seamless. The long run. Like Steve said, at a be a center and an opportunity to generate additional sales.

David Cannon: Paul, did you say $60,000 to $120,000 a month?

Paul Kaczowski: That's correct.

David Cannon: Okay. Okay. So probably maybe up to $400,000 or $500,000 for the quarter. Was the impact, which at some point we'll get back and then also as Steve mentioned, it should improve conversion.

David Cannon: Right. Okay? And then on another subject as it relates to the bank, could you give us an update on what you think is happening in terms of regulation and banks potentially offering traditional financing. So for reason I'm asking is, you know, you're paying eight and three-quarters on your preferred. You know, with the strong cash generation, I mean, we would if you were a regular company, you banks would be lining up to give you $50 million that probably sulfur plus two. And we could arb that and we could also thoughtfully opportunistically deploy that into, you know, other initiatives like share buybacks or whatever increases shareholder value.

So could you talk a little bit about that landscape and what's happening and if this is an opportunity in the forward twelve months?

Steve Urban: Yeah. I'll be happy to do that. So just in the last week or two, JPMorgan sent a letter to the NSSS and basically rescinded their policies that prohibited them from doing business with the gun industry. I think it was kind of veiled in the modern sporting rifles category. But, you know, I think under Trump, he signed an executive order. They've put out some additional requirements that they're prohibiting banks from discriminating against the number of categories of businesses including fossil fuels and what have you, but firearms was kind of very high up the list.

And I think that what that does, you know, change the landscape in terms of being able to get bank debt sizable amounts of bank debt at a reasonable price. In the past, if you look at the top 100 banks, you know, maybe there were five or six that would do business with companies that were, you know, gun companies. We're not really a gun company. We're a technology company, but firearms are sold through our site. And I think that, you know, the executive orders and the change in attitude by the regulators is changing that, changing that attitude toward the gun industry and opening up avenues that were previously closed to us.

And so I do agree with your thesis that, you know, the company probably has the ability to raise a substantial amount of reasonably priced debt from banks if we care to do that. Then obviously we could look at intelligent ways to deploy it including potentially paying off the preferred, potentially share buybacks, whatever intelligent capital allocation strategies that we wish to pursue. So, I believe very much that avenue is much more accessible than it has been in the past.

David Cannon: Okay. Is that something that I'm sorry, is that something that you're currently engaged in? Are you in conversations with banks at this present time to get reasonable debt?

Steve Urban: We are not. But you know, we're kicking I mean, we're always looking at capital allocation strategies and I've done a number of debt deals in my life. I don't like to be over-levered but a certain amount of leverage that we can easily service is a good thing and so we are always looking at these things.

David Cannon: Okay. And then I see take was up about 10 basis points. Can you talk to some of the levers that you think you have? And is there opportunity to move take up a little bit more? And then my last question is in regards to the progress that you've made in used over the next twelve to twenty-four months do you guys have an internal target as to the percentage that you'd like to see in GMV per use?

Steve Urban: So I think in terms of moving take rate around, I'll let Paul give you some more details here. But in terms of moving take rate around, you know, things like the universal payments, potentially even the deal with Master FFL. These have the ability to, you know, increase our take rates over time. And we, you know, as these things roll in, you know, we're always trying to drive that number to our best of our ability. We're trying to drive it through, you know, new services, as opposed to straight fee increases. And so, we're trying to be very thoughtful and find ways to create more value and to be able to charge for it.

And, you know, those the two examples I just gave are solid examples of that. Paul, do you want to talk some more about our kind of the other question David asked about where we expect to use to go?

Paul Kaczowski: Sorry. It was of where we expect I missed the last part of the Zotto question.

David Cannon: Just an internal target over the next twelve to twenty-four months that you'd like to see used become as a percent?

Paul Kaczowski: We have not set an internal target on used. I think some of the marketing programs kind of address users on the site by kind of profile is the goal. So we did not set a target on used GMV sales.

Steve Urban: We are continually, we're always trying to drive more used product through the site. And we may not have quantified it, but that's a goal is to continue to get more used product on the site. Used product has a great sell-through rate. Margins to the person who's actually selling the product. So it's just always a push for us.

David Cannon: You know what? One more question. My apologies. So you had mentioned that to start the year probably given what's happening with, you know, ICE and some of this protesting. You had implied that there was an increase in activity that the year started off more positively. Could you just touch on that a little bit? And share with us what you're seeing? I mean, we check the traffic, and we do see it improving, but we don't see anything. Anything like, you know, really meaningful. But I'll, yeah, I'd like to hear what you're saying.

Steve Urban: You know, I said, the NSSF, you know, does the adjusted mix and obviously, you know, the suppressor, the tax is going away on NFL items. Has driven activity. And I think NFA has probably more than, you know, the Minnesota occurrences, probably more so than that. It's just, you know, as of January 1, no more NSA tax and that's driving activity and that's driving interest. Not just in the restricted items, but, you know, across the board. I think that's probably your biggest driver is just the tax going away. It's caused renewed interest in the space.

David Cannon: Okay. That's helpful. Again, thank you for your hard work. Congrats to you and your entire team.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Steve Urban for any closing remarks.

Steve Urban: I want to thank you for participating in today's call. For your interest in Outdoor Holding Company. We look forward to sharing our ongoing progress when we report our fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2026 results in June.

Operator: Thank you. Have a good day. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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