PHINIA (PHIN) Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Date

Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2025 at 8:30 a.m. ET

Call participants

President and Chief Executive Officer — Brady Ericson

Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer — Chris Gropp

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Risks

Chris Gropp stated, "we anticipate the first year sales and resulting returns may face some initial headwinds given SEM's reliance on a challenged CV market and potential distractions from ongoing integration efforts."

Brady Ericson identified CV tariffs coming into effect on November 1 as a market and tariff risk, noting their impact on guidance.

Unfavorable product mix led to an 80 basis point decline in aftermarket segment margin in the third quarter of fiscal 2025, as detailed in the call.

Management anticipates a step-up in restructuring charges, with Chris Gropp noting approximately $35 million for infrastructure rightsizing, professional fees, and other costs, as discussed in the context of the fiscal 2025 outlook.

Takeaways

Net sales -- $908 million in net sales for the third quarter of fiscal 2025, an 8.2% year-over-year increase driven by the SEM acquisition, favorable foreign exchange, pricing actions for tariff recoveries, and higher volumes in Asia and the Americas.

Ex-SEM/FX revenue growth -- Excluding SEM and FX, revenue increased 5% in the third quarter of fiscal 2025, reflecting balanced contributions from pricing, tariff recovery, and volume improvements.

Record adjusted EBITDA -- $133 million in adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of fiscal 2025, representing a margin of 14.6% and a year-over-year expansion of 30 basis points, primarily attributed to lower R&D expenses and Fuel Systems performance.

Fuel Systems segment -- Sales rose 13.4% and margin expanded by 190 basis points year-over-year in the third quarter of fiscal 2025, supported by supply chain savings, productivity gains, and reduced engineering costs.

Aftermarket segment margin -- Decreased by 80 basis points to 15% in the third quarter of fiscal 2025, due to unfavorable product mix, despite slightly higher year-over-year revenue.

Adjusted EPS -- $1.59 in the third quarter of fiscal 2025, up from $1.17 in the same period of the prior year, with gains supported by increased share repurchases.

Adjusted free cash flow -- Adjusted free cash flow was $104 million in the third quarter of fiscal 2025, up from $60 million in the third quarter of fiscal 2024.

Shareholder returns -- $41 million returned via $11 million in dividends and $30 million in share repurchases during the third quarter of fiscal 2025, with $194 million remaining under the repurchase authorization.

Net leverage -- Maintained at 1.4x EBITDA, below the 1.5x target, following the SEM acquisition and capital deployment in the third quarter of fiscal 2025.

SEM acquisition -- Closed in August for $47 million total consideration, expected to contribute approximately $50 million in annual sales and $10 million in adjusted operating income (non-GAAP), though the initial year is expected to be lighter due to CV market conditions and integration.

2025 guidance midpoint raised -- Full-year fiscal 2025 sales are now guided to a midpoint of $3.42 billion, with an increased adjusted EBITDA midpoint of $473 million and adjusted free cash flow midpoint raised by $10 million to $190 million.

Tax rate outlook -- Adjusted effective tax rate guidance for fiscal 2025 improved to 33%-37%, versus the previous 36%-40% range.

Restructuring charges -- Expect approximately $35 million in restructuring expenses to support an estimated $25 million in annual savings, with full project completion targeted by 2028.

New business wins -- Secured multiple contracts in North America, Asia, UK, and Middle East for both OE and aftermarket solutions, including first aerospace shipments and anticipated further expansion into power generation and aerospace sectors.

Settlement with former parent -- Callout of an agreement resolving litigation, with "a substantial portion" according to Brady Ericson of payments to be offset by tax recoveries, and no expected material impact on capital allocation or liquidity.

Summary

PHINIA (NYSE:PHIN) delivered its highest quarterly net sales and adjusted EBITDA since becoming a stand-alone public company in the third quarter of fiscal 2025, reflecting strong operational leverage and effective capital deployment after the SEM acquisition.

Management specifically highlighted the completion of transitional agreements, enabling fully comparable results and a view of underlying performance.

Cost control, restructuring, and efficiency initiatives are expected to yield material future savings, while new market entries are supporting diversified growth opportunities.

The company raised all key components of its fiscal 2025 financial outlook—including sales, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted free cash flow, and the adjusted effective tax rate—supported by positive updates on customer pricing recoveries and disciplined capital management.

Brady Ericson confirmed first deliveries in the aerospace segment, with rising industry interest and expectations for additional program awards in the coming quarters.

Industry glossary

CV: Commercial vehicle — refers to vehicles designed for transporting goods or passengers commercially, including trucks and buses.

SEM: Swedish Electromagnet Invest AB — a recent PHINIA acquisition specializing in advanced ignition and fuel systems for alternative fuels.

ECU: Electronic control unit — a device responsible for managing engine or component functions electronically in automotive applications.

TSAs: Transitional service agreements — contracts providing interim services post-divestiture or spin-off, phased out in the prior year.

GDi: Gasoline direct injection — fuel injection technology delivering fuel directly into the combustion chamber of each cylinder.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Brady Ericson: Thank you, Kellen, and thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. I'll start with some overall comments on the third quarter and then provide some thoughts on the remainder of the year and beyond. Chris will then provide additional details on our third quarter financials and discuss our updated 2025 guidance. We will then open the call for questions. The highlights of the third quarter include the closing of our acquisition of Swedish Electromagnet Invest or SEM, our first acquisition as a public company, delivering our second quarter in a row of year-over-year net sales growth with Q3 being over 8% higher than prior year.

This led to a record quarter for adjusted sales and adjusted EBITDA dollars as a public company. For the first time, our results are mostly being compared like-for-like against the prior year quarter as we had substantially exited all TSAs and contract manufacturing from our former parent in the third quarter of 2024 and nearly all of our corporate structure and costs were fully in place. And finally, with our strong adjusted free cash flow, we were able to acquire SEM and returned $41 million to shareholders via dividends and share repurchases while maintaining ample liquidity and our net leverage of 1.4x EBITDA. Let's start with SEM.

In June, we announced plans to acquire the company, and we were able to quickly close the transaction in August. SEM is a 100-year-old leading provider of an advanced natural gas, hydrogen and other alternative fuel ignition systems, injector stators and linear position sensors to the commercial vehicle and off-highway sectors. With SEM, we have expanded our ignition and electronic control capabilities, broadening our system offerings. By combining PHINIA's expertise in engine management systems with SEM's deep knowledge of advanced ignition technologies, we are creating a powerful platform for innovation and efficiency. We're excited to welcome SE to the PHINIA family and look forward to growing with them. Moving to our results.

Our third quarter performance reflects steady progress in executing our strategic priorities and our ongoing commitment to returning value to shareholders in the form of dividends and share buybacks. We are executing several structural initiatives to enhance efficiency and data visibility. We are consolidating 4 ERP systems into a single global SAP S/4HANA platform, which we will phase in across the globe over the next several years. Additionally, the integration of SEM and our ongoing cost savings initiatives are laying the groundwork for a more agile, efficient organization.

Although the macroeconomic and industry outlook remain uncertain, we are focused on what we can control through operational and cost efficiency initiatives, providing value to our customers and driving sustainable performance across all our markets. Net sales in the quarter were a record $908 million, up 8.2% from the same period of the prior year as we benefited from the SEM contribution, favorable FX, customer pricing related to tariff recoveries and increased volume in Asia and the Americas. Excluding SEM and FX, revenue increased 5%. This is the second consecutive quarter where both segments reported higher year-over-year sales. We reported adjusted EBITDA of $133 million with a margin of 14.6%, a 30 basis point year-over-year expansion.

The margin expansion was primarily due to lower R&D expenses and strong performance from our Fuel Systems segment. This was partially offset by unfavorable product mix and increased employee costs. The $133 million of EBITDA was also a quarterly record as a stand-alone company. Fuel Systems delivered a strong quarter with adjusted operating income up 33% and the margin expanding 190 basis points, which is partially diluted from the SEM acquisition. AOI was driven by research and development savings, overhead cost control measures and efficiencies. Those are partially offset by unfavorable product mix. Aftermarket margin was down 80 basis points. The decrease was primarily due to unfavorable product mix.

Our combined Fuel Systems and Aftermarket segment adjusted operating margin was 14%, an 80 basis point increase when compared with the third quarter of 2024 and a new record for a quarter as a stand-alone company. Adjusted earnings per share, excluding nonoperating items as detailed in the appendix of our presentation, was $1.59, up from $1.17 in the same period of the prior year. Finally, as we disclosed in an 8-K last week, we reached an agreement with our former parent company to equitably resolve our litigation and move forward in a positive manner. We expect that a substantial portion of the settlement payments will be offset by collection of pre-spin VAT refunds, tax credits and various other tax recoveries.

As a result, we do not believe that the settlement will have a material impact to our capital allocation strategies, liquidity or our net leverage ratio. This quarter marks an important milestone for PHINIA. It's our first quarter of fully comparable year-over-year results since the spin with all transitional service agreements and contract manufacturing now complete and nearly all corporate costs were in place. The third quarter reflects the true underlying performance of our business. As a general overview and consistent with recent quarters, our results in the third quarter highlight the strength and resiliency of our business in the face of a challenging and unpredictable environment.

This is consistent with the benefits of having a truly diversified industrial business with diversity in customers, markets, industries and regions in which we support. Our innovation strategy remains at the center of our growth story. We continue to invest heavily in R&D, roughly $200 million annually or about 6% of sales, and our customers reimburse us for about half of that through software and calibration services, demonstrating our position as a true development partner. In turn, we are making important investments in our business that are advancing our competitive position in the key markets and allowing us to capture incremental growth opportunities and support our customers.

Our brand is strong in the market and customer preferences for our products remain high. Our excellent service is supporting our growth with both new and existing customers. Let me highlight a few of the new business wins on Pages 6 and 7. The new next-generation canister technology with leak detection devices for a leading North American OEM on two hybrid light commercial vehicle programs. a brushless alternator for industrial applications to a leading off-highway OEM in Asia for mining haul trucks; a conquest gasoline direct injection, or GDi, fuel rail assembly and controller for a light passenger vehicle applications, securing our first win and new business with a major Chinese OEM.

Moving next to our aftermarket business, as shown on Slide 7, we're winning both new business and expanding relationships with existing customers. Importantly, these wins are across diverse geographies. Expanding our market-leading product coverage and grew share of wallet with a major Middle Eastern customer, signed an agreement with a new large customer in the United Kingdom for braking and suspension components new starter and alternator business with additional distributors in North America. Our value proposition is differentiated and continues to attract new customers as well as deepen relationships with existing customers. As shown on Slide 8, our business is diverse by end markets and geographies. Most recently, we've expanded into the aerospace and defense industries.

As I've mentioned on prior calls, this is an emerging and exciting adjacency for us. We're launching multiple programs with a key aerospace customer that leverages our existing engineers and manufacturing infrastructure. We have started initial shipments on our first aerospace business award and expect our second program to launch in early 2026. These wins validate our strategy to extend core combustion and control technologies into adjacent markets. Now moving on to Slide 9 for a discussion of capital allocation. We have taken a disciplined approach to capital allocation while remaining opportunistic about M&A.

We will continue to evaluate selective M&A opportunities that enhance our product offerings in precision machine components and assemblies, electronics and controls as well as increasing our presence in key markets and industries such as aerospace, commercial vehicles, off-highway, industrial and the aftermarket. Our approach remains opportunistic and disciplined. Consistent with our capital allocation priorities to invest in our business for long-term profitable growth, we invested $26 million in capital expenditures during the third quarter with funds expended primarily on new tooling and equipment. Also on the capital allocation front, during the quarter, we returned $41 million to our shareholders, including $11 million in quarterly dividends and $30 million in share repurchases.

We have $194 million remaining under our current repurchase authorization, and we expect to continue to evaluate the best use of capital on a quarterly basis. Since the spin-off in July of '23, we repurchased approximately 20% of our outstanding shares. Even with the acquisition of SEM, capital investment in our operations and capital return to shareholders, our balance sheet remains solid with cash and cash equivalents of $349 million, total liquidity of approximately $900 million and our net leverage ratio remaining at 1.4x, which is under our target of approximately 1.5x. This was possible due to our strong adjusted free cash flow of $104 million in the third quarter.

As we look to the remainder of the year, we see some market and tariff risk as CV tariffs are coming into effect on November 1. Importantly, we will continue to work with our customers on recovery and similar to the auto tariffs, we expect to substantially recoup the costs from our customers because CV OEMs are also qualifying for the same 3.5% rebate as are the auto OEMs. We have adjusted our 2025 outlook to account for the SEM acquisition and some external factors. On the revenue front, the midpoint of our outlook is up $40 million from our prior guide, driven by approximately $15 million from SEM and the remainder from favorable FX, volumes and pricing.

The midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA guidance is up slightly as it continues to be constrained by tariff-related revenue that carries 0 margin. Adjusted free cash flow has been a good story for us, and we're raising the midpoint of our 2025 outlook by $10 million. To wrap up, we've continued to build momentum across our diversified end markets while maintaining disciplined cost and cash management. Our teams are executing our long-term strategy that is focused on product leadership, stable growth, financial discipline and total shareholder returns. With that, I'll hand it over to Chris, who will walk us through our Q3 results and discuss our outlook for this year. Chris?

Chris Gropp: Thanks, Brady, and thank you all for joining us this morning. As a reminder, reconciliations of all non-GAAP financial measures that I will discuss can be found in today's press release and in the presentation, both of which are on our website. Beginning on Slide 11. Our financial results in the quarter were solid and include the contribution from SEM, which closed in August, as Brady mentioned. The external environment has not changed dramatically from the prior quarters. However, we continue to see strength in our OE sales across the globe, enhanced by strength in aftermarket sales in select markets. We are pleased that the teams have responded appropriately and delivered strong revenue and EBITDA in the quarter.

Specifically, we generated $908 million in net sales, an increase of 8.2% versus a year ago. Our top line benefited from favorable foreign exchange tailwinds of $19 million and an $8 million contribution from SEM. Excluding these impacts, net sales increased 5%, a result of better pricing, tariff recovery and increased volumes in Asia and the Americas. Let me now bridge our adjusted revenue and adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter, which you can find on Pages 11 through 13 in the presentation. Fuel Systems segment sales were up 13.4%, including prior year contract manufacturing sales or 13.7%, excluding the effect of contract manufacturing, which ended in Q3 of 2024.

The increase in Fuel Systems revenue was also attributable to foreign exchange, customer tariff recoveries and the contribution from SEM of $8 million. Segment margin was 13.3%, up 190 basis points year-over-year, primarily due to supply chain savings, productivity improvements and reduced engineering costs. Our aftermarket segment sales were up slightly year-over-year on positive European results, combined with a small amount of tariff recovery. This revenue was partially offset by lower volumes in North America and Asia. With respect to profitability, the aftermarket segment margin of 15% was down 80 basis points from the prior year and impacted by unfavorable product mix.

On a consolidated basis, our Q3 segment adjusted operating margin and adjusted operating income were healthy at 14% or up 80 basis points and 11.1% or up 70 basis points year-over-year, respectively. Our teams worked hard to cut costs and improve productivity despite some volatile market conditions. Our adjusted net earnings per diluted share in the third quarter were $1.59, an increase of $0.42 per share for the quarter. These amounts exclude nonoperating items, which are described in the appendix of our presentation and influenced by lower share count as we continued share repurchases. On August 1, our team was excited to welcome new colleagues to the PHINIA family with the close of the SEM acquisition.

Total paid was $47 million, comprised of $15 million in cash proceeds to seller and $32 million used to extinguish debt assumed through the acquisition. While we expect SEM to contribute sales annually of approximately $50 million and adjusted operating income of $10 million, we anticipate the first year sales and resulting returns may face some initial headwinds given SEM's reliance on a challenged CV market and potential distractions from ongoing integration efforts. In addition to SEM, we settled a claim regarding the tax matters agreement with our former parent following the close of the quarter. Our full year 2025 guidance, which we will discuss, has incorporated the impacts of this settlement appropriately.

We expect that a substantial portion of the settlement payments will be funded through refund payments we receive from various tax authorities related to certain indirect tax payments made prior to the spin-off with the remaining portion funded with available liquidity. As described in last week's 8-K, the settlement with our former parent also provides clarification on the company's ability to obtain and use the benefit of certain tax attributes. This has the potential of providing us with additional flexibility as we continue to optimize our tax structure. Intense focus by our teams delivered a strong balance sheet, providing substantial current liquidity despite all the extra activities in the quarter.

Cash and cash equivalents were $349 million, while available capacity under our credit facility remained at approximately $0.5 billion for a resulting liquidity of approximately $900 million. Cash flow from operations was $119 million in the quarter, and adjusted free cash flow was $104 million, a significant increase from $60 million in the same period of the prior year. We continue to remain confident in our ability to generate free cash flow to support our capital allocation priorities. As such, we paid $11 million in dividends and repurchased $30 million in our stock in Q3, bringing our year-to-date returns to shareholders to $202 million. This balance consists of $32 million in dividends and $170 million in share repurchases.

Now moving to Slide 14 for a discussion of our refined full year 2025 outlook. As Brady indicated, we have adjusted our outlook slightly to account for the acquisition of SEM, minor tariff changes and other macroeconomic factors. We are adjusting our 2025 sales guide, increasing the high end of the guide to $3.45 billion and bringing up the low end of guide to $3.39 billion for an increased midpoint of $3.42 billion. We are narrowing our adjusted EBITDA range with a high end of $480 million and low end of $465 million for a slightly higher midpoint of $473 million.

In addition, we are taking the midpoint of our adjusted free cash flow up by $10 million to $190 million and improving our tax rate for the second quarter in a row. Our expected adjusted tax rate is now projected to be in an improved 33% to 37% range from the prior projection of 36% to 40% as ongoing tax structuring projects gain traction and progress. We do not expect this change to have a material impact on cash taxes in 2025. Overall, we continue to be confident in delivery of solid returns as we deal with 0 or low-margin tariff recoveries, choppy markets and foreign exchange movements.

As Brady mentioned, as we look forward, we are also disclosing implementation of a strategic effort to align our legacy structure to more effectively match the business as it develops globally. As such, we anticipate a step-up in restructuring charges, approximating $35 million in infrastructure rightsizing, professional fees and other costs to yield an estimated $25 million in annual savings, a less than 2-year payback once all projects are fully implemented. This is complementary to our normal ongoing work to ensure our operations and corporate functions are agile and meet the future needs of our invested constituencies. We are operating from a strong financial foundation and executing on clear strategic priorities.

In closing, we remain firmly committed to building sustainable value for all our stakeholders. Thank you all for your attention today, and we will now move to the Q&A portion of our call. Operator, please open the lines for questions.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Bobby Brooks at Northland Capital Markets.

Robert Brooks: So excluding the acquisition and currency impact, sales were up 5.1% year-over-year, a really, really healthy number. I was just curious if we could dive a little bit deeper into that 5.1%. Like how much of that was pricing and tariff recoveries versus increased volumes or even just new products being shipped out?

Brady Ericson: Yes. I mean it's a balance between kind of all three of them. I mean pricing and tariffs is going to be about the same as volume is the same. There's a little bit of FX kind of headwind. So not a lot of difference between the three. It's kind of equally balanced.

Robert Brooks: Got it. Got it. And then just with the pricing, is that pricing -- like you said pricing and then tariff recovery, so it seems like those are two separate silos. On the pricing, is it reasonable to think that, that's going to be sticky moving forward? Or how should we think about that?

Brady Ericson: Yes. I mean obviously, they're linked directly because as we have tariffs, we're passing on price, and so that's the bulk of it. And that's going to be sticky because unless the tariffs are going away, it's going to stay there. And again, that's one of the reasons why our EBITDA is not going up as much is because those are basically at breakeven EBITDA or margin and a little bit of headwind in that. But we don't see it going away. We think it's going to be there. We just got to continue to drive productivity and other efficiency improvements to get our margin back to where we expected.

Chris Gropp: Bobby, on the tariffs, one of -- some of the things that we have been doing is in lieu of tariff pass-through, we've actually gotten concessions on some other areas. So I mean, we've gotten pricing. Obviously, on the aftermarket, it is more of a price increase game. But it's not huge. It's not material. It's just a couple of million dollars when you look at the pricing and strip out just the tariff going through, just trying to make sure we get recovery on all of those.

Robert Brooks: Got it. That's very helpful color. And then last one for me. It's great to hear you begin shipping components for your first aerospace program. That's really exciting news. Do you think achieving this milestone will sort of serve as a cowbell to alert other aerospace companies, your legit and certified potential supplier? And maybe asked a different way, do you feel there are potential customers waiting in the wings to see you successfully deliver those components for the first couple of projects before stepping in and placing an order?

Brady Ericson: Yes. And absolutely true. I think ever since we've announced them and then at the Paris Air Show in June, the level of interest, the RFIs and RFQs coming to us has gone up substantially. And as I mentioned, I think in the last call, we fully expect to get additional awards here in the coming quarters that will continue to support that expansion. And so we're having conversations with pretty much every of the major engine manufacturers out there and see some good opportunities for us to continue to grow in that space.

Operator: We'll move next to Joseph Spak at UBS.

Joseph Spak: I wanted to -- I had a couple of questions. I guess, one, maybe just on the implied guidance in the fourth quarter, maybe a little bit softer than expectations. Just wondering if you could give us a little bit more detailed commentary on the organic end market. And then related to the guidance, but also just want to understand the business going forward, it implies the guidance about $7 million in the fourth quarter from SEM, which is, I guess, $1 million below the third quarter despite it being a full quarter in the fourth quarter. So is that -- is there some seasonality to that?

Or is that some of that sort of softer demand you talked about and for that first year of owning the business? And if so, is $7 million, $8 million a good sort of run rate to start to think about for '26?

Brady Ericson: Sure. On Q4, I think we're -- we always talk about seasonality in general, and we haven't had a normal season for a while. But I think this is looking to be more a normal seasonality where Q1 and Q4 are lighter. I think our Q1 this year was probably lighter than normal. I think Q4 typically is anywhere from 5% or so lighter than Q2 and Q3. And so I think we're kind of getting back to that normal seasonality. Obviously, still a little bit of noise here in Q4 on volumes on what people are going to do around shutdowns.

So we're kind of taking that into account as well and making sure that we're in a good position on Q4 in general. SEM, we're still kind of learning their seasonality. We are finding that their second half of the year is a lot lighter than their first half of the year, along with a little CV softness. They tend to -- they shut down in the summer and don't come back until later in August and the expectation they're probably going to shut down earlier in December. So their windows in the second half tend to be a little bit lighter.

We're still confident that they're going to -- as we mentioned earlier, around that $50 million. we're confident they're going to kind of get back there when the market recovers a bit and see them delivering on our expectations. We just have the initial kind of hit right now. We've got a number of folks kind of going in there, getting their systems and processes up to speed and probably adding more cost to their cost structure and then beginning to kind of ramp them up to what our expectations are.

So not a lot of material difference to the overall company, but we do see them coming back stronger next year as the market recovers, and we'll provide more insight in our Investor Day meeting next year as we give guide for 2026, and we'll give that additional clarity on SEM as well.

Chris Gropp: And Joe, I'll add a little bit to it because I think that with so much going on in the market, our units are just being very, very cautious on what they're putting out there because you named the issue. I mean we are not being hit materially by any -- like the JLR issues. That's not a big issue for us. But -- CV tariffs coming in, there's a lot of things out there. None of them hit us materially, but our units get a little cautious. And so we're just trying to be a little conservative in Q4...

Brady Ericson: The other one is the aluminum supply issue for Ford.

Joseph Spak: Very fair. Fair enough. I guess just in the quarter, Chris, you sort of talked about some of the factors driving the results. Specifically in Fuel Systems, I just want to understand, you had plus $37 million volume mix only $1 million flowed through to EBIT. And I know you sort of talked about negative mix, but it feels like there has to be something more than that in there. Is there anything else we should be thinking about that sort of really weighed on the flow-through there?

Chris Gropp: No. A lot of it, Joe, has to do with -- if you see, we actually specifically call out ECU because as a part of the separation from BorgWarner, we sell ECU from them, and that literally has no margin on it. Now those contracts are coming up in the next couple of years or those restrictions come out, and we're relooking at that. But at the end of the day, ECUs, those components are very expensive, and they just -- if we're going to pass them through or we're looking for other ways of do they sell directly. So that's part of it.

But if you also look, yes, the contribution margin is low, but the units -- the contribution is based on standard. If you look at the other two lines where you see really good productivity and other costs, those are coming in much better, which means my standard is going to get better next year. So it will shift. As long as my units are covering it, whether if my contribution margin is low and they're covering it with productivity and other cost reductions, I'm okay with that because it just means that I'm getting better, my products are getting cheaper because the units are doing what they should be doing.

Joseph Spak: That's helpful color on these. If I could sneak one more in. Just on Slide 8, I noticed you put in power generation and maybe that's been in there all along, but there's definitely been a little bit more focus on turbochargers into power generators and almost all modern turbos have direct injection. Is there -- has there been any increased inquiries into that business? Or is that a growing opportunity and pipeline for you?

Brady Ericson: Yes. I mean we're -- that's kind of we throw that in the industrial side as well, whether that's the power generation, the linear generator that we are working on for hydrogen to gen sets, both small to medium and large plug-in or range extending EV power generation units. That's an area we're starting to pick up more business. And again, I think we'll -- as we may have highlighted, we'll probably going to split out our CV and other OE next year as well because that's starting to become a meaningful portion of our revenue. So we'll probably add some more disclosure on that as we head into next year.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] We'll go next to Jake Scholl at BNP.

Thomas Scholl: Congrats on a strong quarter. I just wanted to circle back to the Ford fuel pump recall from a few months ago. Now that you guys have had a chance to work through that, can you talk about kind of what impact you're seeing on the business, especially on the cash side?

Brady Ericson: No cash impacts, no update, still no concerns on our side. We haven't adjusted our warranty accruals and no cash impact at this point.

Thomas Scholl: All right. And then can you just provide some color on the timing of the restructuring program you announced? When do you expect that to come out? And then when do you expect to fully realize the $25 million in savings?

Brady Ericson: Yes. I mean we see that it's starting to roll out now. We're starting to get -- I think the initial go-live, I think it's starting in 2026. It's going to take us a few years. There's a number of different sites that are at different stages of I guess, their system capabilities that we'll be kind of rolling out. But I think it's fully, I think, Chris, and fully completed by 2028 over that time period. So we see it's going to be a multiyear. It was just -- it was a bigger number than normal.

And so we thought it was prudent to go ahead and kind of call it out given the multiyear nature of it and the benefits that we expect to see. And this is also just, I would say, the next stage of us just continuing to drive efficiency and rightsizing the number of data centers, the number of complexity we have in software and systems and really just consolidating that, consolidating them into one instance, one reducing the number of redundant software systems that we have and licenses and really driving a lot of efficiency in our operations and in the systems that we're using.

So when we got spun out, obviously, it was old DELCO REMY, old DELPHI Automotive, parts of BorgWarner and now SEM. They're all kind of different. And so we're going to establish a kind of a core standard that then is going to be the standard template that we will roll out for future acquisitions and future locations as well and make it a lot simpler for us.

Operator: And that concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Brady for closing remarks.

Brady Ericson: Great. Thanks, everybody, for joining. And just again, a shout out to all of our PHINIA employees, a really great quarter. As we mentioned, with record sales, some great cash flow, first acquisition, continuing to give cash back to our shareholders through dividends and repurchases and still maintaining a very robust balance sheet. And actually, I think our cash balances are up from the prior quarter after the acquisition and the share repurchases and the dividend. So really proud of the team. Looking forward to closing out the year in a very positive manner and continuing the momentum that we have. So thank you very much for joining.

Operator: And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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